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Why I’m glad I didn’t go to Seminary

Posted on Thursday 5 July 2007 by Greg @ 9:19 am
Filed under: Rants

I love theology. I got my first Lewis Sperry Chafer systematic theology eight volume set when I was fifteen years old. Some anonymous preacher dropped it off at my house and asked my grandmother to give them to me.

I was hooked.

From the time I was a teenager I have been a student of God’s Word and theology (in that order). I love to pour over God’s Word, think and pray through what it means and how it applies to my life and, then, inevitably adjust my theological grid by the truth that I learn. God’s Word is always kicking my butt and changing my grid. I believe that the Bible is the most perfect thing that we have on this side of eternity. In other words God "opinion" is much better than my "firm beliefs." If the Word of God is the cumulative divine opinions he wants us to hold on to, then I must chuck or adjust my beliefs when they come up against God’s opinions. Why? Because divine opinions are true truth. Human opinions are like armpits…everybody’s got them and they all stink (heard this quote from my old pastor when I was a teenager.)

In preparation for Seminary I took a year of Greek at Liberty University. Taking a year of Greek is equivalent to learning how to take a punch and fall down right in Karate. It gave me enough tools to master a lexicon, pronounce the words right and give me a few nuances of the Greek language that help me navigate the text more effectively.

Because of my passion for God’s Word it was always my plan to go to seminary. I wanted to dig deeper in the Word and the Scriptures, allowing God’s truth to make a more powerful impact on my life and my belief grid in every way. But I didn’t go. I honestly believe that it wasn’t in God’s plan for me to go.

Here’s my shortlist of why I’m glad I didn’t go to seminary:

  1. The Prevailing Seminary Cynicism. Thanks to Karl Barth (among others), an army of left leaning scholars of higher criticism and a growing passion for all things Emergent, there is an ever increasing seminary cynicism of Biblical inerrancy (i.e. the belief that God’s Word was inspired/ ‘breathed out’ by God and is therefore without errors in its original manuscripts). If God’s Word is not inerrant then it is left up to me to decide what is true and what is not and to what degree. To be honest, I don’t want that kind of pressure. I’m just not that bright. Now this smarmy cynicism has spilled over to the substitutionary death of Christ (i.e. that he paid the price for all our sin when he died on the cross), the exclusivism of Christ as the only way of salvation, the reality of hell, the knowability of truth, and pretty much everything that makes Christianity, well, Christian. Many seminary professors take great joy in embracing and invoking doubt in their students. They love to push Humpty Dumpty off the wall. Don’t get me wrong. I have no problem pushing the Mr. Dumpty off the bricks…as long as we put him back together before we finish the scene.
  2. The Hiatus from "real life" among "real people". Instead of three years of Seminary I had eight years of roofing. I’m so glad. Why? Because this taught me how theology integrates into real life with real people. As a matter of fact when you study the way the ultimate Professor taught his twelve students you see a baptism into real life with real people, not a hiatus from culture into an inner sanctuary of separation. Jesus’ seminary was cursing fig trees and Pharisees, touching lepers and reaching shepherds, reaching out to the prostitutes more than the religious institutes. Jesus’ classes were held while walking down the pathway filled with mud and crud, flipping tables in the Temple, telling stories on the mountain and taking naps during the original "Deadliest Catch." Eight years of seeking to live, form and share my theology on the roof helped me immensely more than a sequestered life of monkdom would ever do for me at the typical seminary.
  3. Failure to grasp "The Blue Collar Hermeneutic" I don’t know about you, but most commentaries I read are pretty lame. Many basic commentaries seem either restating the text in a "no duh" way that provide no significant insights to the student or they are so dead set on "being deep" that what they share is not grounded in sound insight and basic common sense.  I’ve finally come to the conclusion that many commentators suffer from a deficiency. They lack what I’ve nicknamed "The Blue Collar Hermeneutic." You see, the Bible was written to average people of average intelligence. It wasn’t written primarily by or to the intellectual elite. It was written by common people for common people. Highly intelligent scholars  who separate themselves from real life tend to be lame commentators in my opinion. They often don’t take the common sense route of basic interpretation. They weave a web to impress themselves (and fellow collegues) and in so doing do a disservice to the text and to the reader of the commentary.

For these reasons and more I’m glad that I never went to seminary. I’ve studied theology for a lifetime and will continue to do so (although I wish I knew the original languages of Hebrew and Greek more!)

Now, having said all this, I don’t think that just because my path didn’t go through seminary that your’s shouldn’t. God has different plans for different people. I was in a unique kind of situation where I started passionately studying theology from my teenage years.

If God is leading you to go through seminary let me challenge you with these thoughts:

  1. Pick a seminary that is going to help you build a strong theological grid that relies heavily on the inerrancy of Scripture. Avoid the loser seminaries out there that undermine basic Christian orthodoxy.
  2. Connect yourself to real "sinners" while in seminary. Get a job off campus with non Christians if possible. If not possible then study at your local Starbucks, work out at a local fitness center or join a non Christian sports team. Why? Because you need to stay connected with real people and real life while learning God’s truth. Remember that Jesus seminary was primarily outside the walls of the Temple.
  3. Take on rogue profs. If you encounter a professor who is a Humpty Dumpty pusher who refuses to put him back together take him/her on. No Christian has a right to spit in the face of Jesus and call it "intellectual freedom."
  4. Let God’s Word be your guide. We are going to stand before him (not some seminary president) and give an account for every wasted word we speak. According to Jesus in Matthew 12 by our words we will be aquitted and by our words we will be condemned. In other words theological solvency matters to Jesus so it should matter to us.

My good friend and co-worker Lane Palmer has two degrees from Denver Seminary. He came out of seminary even stronger because he stayed connected to real life and real people by serving in the Air Force Reserves and landscaping.  He also allowed the Word of God not the word of his profs to build his grid and took on a few rogue profs with the truth of God’s Word.

If you are praying about going to seminary consider what I’ve shared with you in the paragraphs above. If God leads you to go to seminary then make sure you stay connected to the real world and real ministry along the way. If you are one of those guys who think that seminary is the only option consider that Jesus and none of the disciples ever went to seminary.

Parse that.

Signed, Greg Stier

15 Comments for 'Why I’m glad I didn’t go to Seminary'

  1. On July 5, 2007 @ 9:33 am Becky said:
    • Hey Greg.I thought I let you know I go to a christian school and have bible class.The bible class this year was jammed packed with theology that made my brain like woah.For example the thing I still have not figured out is the trinity.Systematic theology is so limited that it confuses me.I have to write papers on different types of theology.I always get marked down when it comes to practical ways to live it.~Becky~

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  2. On July 5, 2007 @ 9:56 am Greg said:
    • yeah, the Trinity’s a tough one…I just finished a book on theology called "You’re Next". We have a whole chapter on the Trinity. And it’s ALL about how to practically apply these truths. You can check it out on our online store. Keep seeking to understand and apply. Believe me it’s a life long process!

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  3. On July 5, 2007 @ 1:38 pm Becky said:
    • I plan to get the boo(you’re next) when I get an amazon giftcard for my 16th b-day.Haha better then a car!Systematic theology means I gotta have logic which is very eh.So I’ll probably use you book as a tool when I’m writing my essays.I really don’t think I would do to tell in seminary but I do love theology.

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  4. On July 5, 2007 @ 3:00 pm Sam Hunley said:
    • You have no idea how relevant this blog is to me right now. I became a Christian about a year ago and soon after seriously considered going to seminary. Now i realize that my calling was not necessarily to be a preacher, but do as you said and live my life for Christ with real people. Right now im seventeen so i have a lot of pressure to know what im going to be doing with my life in the next few years, and to tell the truth. I HAVE NO IDEA! right now im just praying for God to give me guidance and comfort in my confusion so that i may trust Him to take me where i need to be. Thanks though for this blog. You helped put into words my feelings about seminary, so that i can now understand exactly what the "bad feeling" was about going. If you have any advice on books or anything that can help me find where i need to be that would be awesome. i rly want to find a job where i can spread the Word, have interactions with a bunch of people from different backgrounds, and also provide enough income for my family. lol well i know that is a very general job description, but writing things down for me always helps. anyways, thanks again for this blog. -Sam 

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  5. On July 5, 2007 @ 4:12 pm Greg Stier said:
    • Hey Sam, Focus on the Family has got a deal called "The Call" which is a test you can take that uses your spiritual gifting and natural talents to identify potential vocations. I took it and it nailed me pretty good. I’d go to www.family.org and search for "the call". There’s a fee but its well worth it.

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  6. On July 6, 2007 @ 9:28 am Brittney said:
    • this might sound a little dumb, i have no idea what seminary is. i have heard of it before but i never really knew what it was. i probably won’t do it b/c i still haven’t given my whole heart to God. if i ever decide that it is the right thing for me i will keep what you said in mind. -Brittney  

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  7. On July 6, 2007 @ 11:50 am College Kid said:
    • I go to a christian college, which isn’t seminary, but kinda like it. What you said about getting out among sinners is so true. We have here what we fondly call our "Christian Bubble" and once you’re in it, it’s so hard to get out. I was in an amazing youth group in high school and shared my faith with so many people, but can count on one hand how many people I’ve shared with in my 4 years of college. Just a challenge to all those going to college (and everyone else I guess), Christian friends are great to have, but don’t let them be your only friends.

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  8. On July 6, 2007 @ 3:04 pm bruthakurt said:
    • Great timing, Greg!  I was just about to call Liberty U and register for the fall class.  I still want to, but something about this blog hits me.  I want to learn more about God.  I want to go deeper.  But I, like you, don’t believe that seminary is a must.  I have been a full-time youth minister for 7 months (full-tme pay, that is)  I had been part-time for the past 4 years at a different church.  There is a push for churches to send the ministers to seminary and a desire to only hire seminary grads or students.  Why limit your field and possibly miss out on the blessings of a good church leader?  That right there is an added requirement for the called.  I am not certain that seminary is for me.  I am trying to finish my bachelor’s in religion.  I am 32, married for 13 yrs., father of 2 young girls who did not get called by God during my teen years.  I have the non-christian experience.  After high school, I was off to the Air Force and stationed in Alaska.  Real world work has been what has made me the minister that I am.  I can relate to people.  My former pastor once told me that he wished he could relate to the hurting but could not because he had the sheltered background of knowing othing but college and seminary.  He is still quite the evangelistic preacher, though!  Like I said,  this blog hit me at just the right time, it is yet another reminder to let God direct my boat.  I don’t know what lies ahead for me, but I know the one who holds the world!  I appreciate what you and the D2S staffers do for me and others.  I pray for you and D2S!                   Kurt 

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  9. On July 9, 2007 @ 12:19 pm Randy Brandt said:
    • Excellent thoughts, Mr. Stier. Reminds me of the old joke about going to "cemetery." I haven’t gone that route either, although there are times I think it might have been a good experience. So much depends on the school. There are still a few good ones out there, like Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Kentucky. Kurt, I wouldn’t rush to Liberty. They have a lot of good stuff, but a lot of narrow-mindedness as well. I wouldn’t go there as long as Ergun Caner is president after the unethical stunts he pulled in backing out of a scheduled debate with Dr. James White on Calvinism. Regardless of your view on soteriology, a seminary president needs to conduct himself honorably and Caner dropped the ball on that one.

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  10. On July 9, 2007 @ 1:38 pm David Martin said:
    • Greg-  I’m already a big fan of your ministry.  I just spent the last 2 months doing the Gospel Journey curriculum.  Very good results, by the way.  What is so interesting about this particular blog is, God and I just had this debate at lunch today over my "lack of qualifications" seminary-wise, for what may be a very big next step in my calling.  I came into the game late only 3 years ago at age 33 .  There is no diploma for me to wave or a stellar GPA to show a Personnel committee.  I spent my 20’s in sales, musician, working for a dating service (all legit, I promise!) and other gigs to pay the rent.  Then God called me.  It was that call, and knowing it was His, that gave me courage to step in front of a youth group having never taught a lesson or counseled a kid dealing with homosexuality at the age of 12.  God called me.   At the end of my debate with God at lunch today, the points in this blog is what He reminded me of.  He called me and has given me everything He thinks I need to fulfill that calling.  Seminary doesn’t qualify someone to serve, God does by His Grace and that alone.  Thank you X 1000!  -Dave

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  11. On July 10, 2007 @ 8:13 am Chip said:
    • Hey Greg,  Thanks for the quote about armpits and human opinions.  So key as in the Lord’s call in my life, I have seen SO many Christians walk through their lives without stopping and asking God for direction….more accurately, there is seemingly little trust in the answer in the mind and thought and little if any time spent in silence listening.  Curious, I have been taught that the 12 Apostles were all Jewish.  Don’ t they have to memorize the Pentateuch(sp?) before they are like 12?  I mean, wasn’t there a much formal teaching of the youth in that day and age of the Word then what we see in our churches?  For example, though Peter was a fisherman by trade, he had years of in depth meditation on the Word before he went full-time in the family business?

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  12. On July 10, 2007 @ 12:55 pm durb said:
    • Why I’m glad I went to Seminary… I agree with much of what you say here, but I had some experiences and met people in seminary that I never would have had the chance to without it. I had numerous classes that I felt really did help prepare me for real-world ministry (over ten years later, I still have class notes that I refer to on occasion). I think my experience was a little different than typical, because I was doing many of the things you suggested. I lived off campus, (well outside the "bubble"), I had jobs working in ordinary situations, I was involved with a number of outreach ministries where I was exposed to wide array of people and beliefs, and I attended a very sound and respected theological institution (that Chafer guy seems familiar). The "rogue" professors were actually more likely to be the ones that were a little too narrow minded. Yes, there were a few folks who liked to act like they knew everything, and classes could sometimes sink into theological navel-gazing, but those were rare exceptions. So, in considering seminary, there are some questions to ask…is it necessary for me to accomplish what I’d like to accomplish? …is it a good fit for me? …is this where God is calling me? …are there other options? It’s not for everybody, and not a pre-requisite for effective ministry, but it certainly can have value. Thanks for all you do! I appreciate the great work and resources!

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  13. On July 10, 2007 @ 2:13 pm Greg said:
    • Good word durb! Point…counterpoint!

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  14. On July 15, 2007 @ 7:53 am Bill Hubbard said:
    • Scripture says we will know them by their FRUITS…and not which seminary they attended!  On the other hand, I find that the greatest critics of seminaries are the ones who did not attend.  For sure, when I was involved with a major Protestant denomination, I was offered a full ride to their seminary in the Dallas area.  The systematics prof there was teaching that the PERSON of Jesus Christ was irrelevant!!!  His point was that whether Jesus was a real person, or a figment of someone’s imagination didn’t matter…that what DID matter was the moral message that this "Jesus" brought.  YIKES!  Without the PERSON of Jesus, you would have no bodily resurrection, no victory over the grave, and we would still be dead in our sins.  I passed on that seminary! Once I left that particular denomination, I began to look at seminaries that weren’t connected to denominations.  I ended up at the Oral Roberts University School of Theology and Missions.  Sound theology, the centrality of Jesus, the inerancy of the Bible, and the work of the Holy Spirit in our world today were ALL THERE.   The curriculum was TOUGH, too!  Every single one of the professors had earned doctorates, but were not Ivory Tower types.  Any one of these men and women could and would lead someone to Jesus in a heartbeat.  They were people whose walks with the Lord were worthy of respect, but they were excellent scholars, too. What I found most important from my schooling there was that my professors were more interested in what was going on in my heart and in my walk with the Lord, rather than how good were my grades.  They clearly understood that if your heart was right with Jesus, then the stuff you were getting academically would come together.  Without a right walk with Jesus, however, all the learning and theology in the world won’t help. The school also required the students to be involved in the world.  Most of my classmates were involved in ministry, especially ministry at a local level.  But the curriculum also required ministry practicums, mission trips, and clinical work.  You come out of such a school with more than training — you come out "equipped."  The school pounds it into you from Day One, that you are there to become equipped to take Jesus to the world. What will probably stun anyone who reads this is the fact that I am NOT a full time church worker or minister.  I am a career law enforcement officer who is THRILLED that he got the opportunity to go to a GREAT seminary!  ORU Rocks!

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  15. On August 7, 2007 @ 1:35 pm chris burleson said:
    • i am pleased to find that i am not the only christian who questiones the value of semirary school. any denominal organization that will reject a minister because he doesnt have a college degree is also rejecting Jesus Christ and most of the apostles and prophets alike, because they did not have college degrees. to hell with a denomination that would reject christ, because of his lack of education. that’s why some church denominations are ordaining gay marriages, because they are dominated by a minority of highly educated christians. very few working-class christians would allow such a stupid thing.

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