Comments on: The Ted Haggard Scandal…No Laughing Matter

By: Jerry Woodward

Jerry Woodward — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:08:39 +0000

Ted Haggard is a sad example of the church forcing someone to be something they are not. Homosexuality is not the sin the mainline church makes it out to be. If you read the entire story of Sodom you will learn that before the angels came God vowed to destroy the entire region not just Sodom. The sin of Sodom was not Homosexuality but an out of control group of people wanting to rape what they thought were men. Scripture is clear that there would have been women and children there too wanting to do the same thing. When the church throws Homosexuals out and deny them to be who God crated them to be the church looses any influence on Godly behavior. The "sin" of Ted was being unfaithful to his wife. The "sin" of homosexuals is some are unfaithful to their spouses, live immoral lives and all that goes with it. The church needs to wake up. The hetrosexual world matches as much or more in their immorality. As the church lies about what the Bible really says you can expect more of this to happen. Sadly, the suicide rate for teenages and others caught up in being told they are evil is high. God has preserved a group of God fearing homosexuals who love and worship God according to the Bible. Our ministry is hampered by the harm done to homosexuals by the church. Often the response is if God is like the way cChristian people have treated me then I want nothing to do with Him. The end results of the lies the church uses in everyone is hurt and many are driven from the church. If you don’t think this applies to you, know that when you speak these lies not only are the homosexuals hurt but their families and friends are hurt. Often the only remedy is to leave the church. God wants us all to be reaching out to the unsaved and preparing them for the salvation through the grace of God until the day we are all waiting for.

By: Sol Whitten

Sol Whitten — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:53:02 +0000

It saddens me when I see another brother fall. I understand how people feel betrayed ,let down and deceived. I have been blessed by some of the teaching that Ted Haggard has shared, about being a "Life Giving Christian". There is one thing that is obvious about the truth, it will always be delivered by people who don’t totally measure up to it. But just because the mailman is flawed it doesn’t change the content of the letter. The fact that Ted was exposed just reminds me how much God loves him and all who call on His name. The Lord chastens His own, those he loves and the chastening of the Lord is always painful, but when it is done it produces Godly Character. For you see the truth of our preaching and teaching is not validated in that we never fail but that when we do how we respond. When I talk to others I remind them that the most powerful lessons in life are in our failures. You see God is not concerned about our ministries, He is concerned by our character. Brother Ted is in for some hard times, he is now unemployed not to mention the relational fall-out he will experience with his family and friends, trust is so hard to get back when it is broken. I know this is painful for all of us who call on the Name of Jesus Christ, but this is about redemption and our perfecting in Christ. Thank God we have a loving Father in heaven who won’t let us get away with anything. Fellow believers yes those who are not of us will cast stones at us and use this as an opportunity to validate their own sin which they display proudly for the world to see. The lesson they are teaching is Ted’s mistake is, he is not one of them, calling "Evil good and good evil." But remember when they do cast stones you only need to be concerned if Jesus is holding a rock in His hand, Last I looked He didn’t, instead He says, "Neither do I condemn you, Go and sin no more". My word for Ted Haggard and all of us is, there is forgiveness, grace, mercy and life In Christ Jesus our Lord who died on the cross to pay for our sin!

By: Taylor

Taylor — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:34:27 +0000

Greg, all I can say is what you said yourself, only Ted, Mike and God know what went on. But if he did do this, He is going to be mocked and forever thought as a hypocrite. I think that is enough of a punishment from fellow sinners. God will always forgive and accept his children. Yet, I’m not saying that what he supposedly did is right. I think that what what he is accused of is very, very wrong!!!! That is what gives Christians a bad name.

By: David Perkins

David Perkins — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:52:53 +0000

"The name and fame of Jesus Christ?" Sorry, preacher, but the name and "fame" of Jesus is quite secure. It’s us fallen humans who are risk! The Ted tragedy is not so much that another human has failed God sexually (we all fail God in one way or another) but that he was a hypocrite in publicly opposing what he himself indulged in. And his influence is in direct proportion to how hypocritical he was. Christians need to get back to worshipping God and following Christ and not worshipping politics and following political "Leaders!" May the love of Christ and the forgiveness of God inhabit your whole being. David Perkins Lay preacher Fort Worth, Texas

By: Jon

Jon — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:30:17 +0000

Well Scott, I came here since I searched for Ted Haggard in google and this site came up… it was interesting to see what Christians think of it all. What you are doing now is using emotional blackmail to seal your point. If I were Muslim, and you were wrong, you’d be the one ending up in hell! But I have no doubts. I have checked both sides of the argument, and have sided with atheism, I hope you have come to your choice by checking both sides. Anyhow good luck to you and I hope your life brings happiness.

By: anne edwards

anne edwards — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:03:59 +0000

Hi Greg, I think you’re right on the money that we should be uplifting Ted and his entire family and their church family as well. Asking God to work for His own glory in the midst of this mess is appropriate as well. And praying (and even giving thanks) for the man who broke this into the open is a good thing as well…we’re told to pray for those who misuse us. But I do take a bit of issue with your saying that Pastor Ted is one of the most influential Christians on the planet. Perhaps in your little corner of the planet in Denver. But I can’t think of many believers in Spain or Europe or the UK or China or Africa or even perhaps in Mexico who have heard of him. So I question his influence… Just a thought. Influence is all in the mind of the beholder. And God is no respecter of persons. Pastor Ted’s sin is just as bad as any one of our sins that we commit each day.

By: Scott Eaton

Scott Eaton — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:16:47 +0000

Jon – if you think Christianity is bogus, why are you lurking around here? Are you sure you have no doubts? If I’m wrong, I’m happy with my life and you are happy with yours. But if you’re wrong, I end up in heaven and well, you don’t. It would be hell for you. This is why we share what we share. It is genuine love and concern.

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:57:51 +0000

Hi Scott, genuine thanks for your concern. I have seriously looked into Christianity and Jesus claims. I have personally come to the conclusion that the Bible is all based on Astrology. I have a website that I could post if you wish to look at it should you be interested in my opinion.

By: Scott Eaton

Scott Eaton — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:56:05 +0000

Hey Jon: I appreciate your feedback. Hypocritical Christians tick me off too. But this is really why we NEED Jesus Christ. It is not because Chrisitans are good or better than you or anyone else. It is because we are sinful – and at times we are hypocrites. Christianity is not the move from vice to virtue, but from vice to grace. Have you ever seriously considered Jesus’ own claims about himself? Have your ever really looked at the uniqueness of Jesus Christ in comparison to all other religious figures? Before you write off Christianity and more importantly Jesus Christ, you owe it to yourself to really check it out. Unfortunately most people have only ever seen a caricature of Christianity and not the real deal. I would challenge you to take a look at Jesus Christ for who he really is. Are you willing?

By: Jon

Jon — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:06:01 +0000

Hi Scott, I am not anti-Christian at all. I know many who are very nice people. I am no more anti-Christian than I am anti-Jew or anti-Muslim. I just dont like hypocrites. I find it sad that people choose to follow hypocrites like Haggard, and then defend him after what he has done. There is no sin in being homosexual, or enjoying some of what it has to offer, but surely the sin is in the hypocrisy of it all. I dont believe in the Christian doctrines at all, personally I find it all nonsense – but I wouldnt go out of my way trying to convert people into something that could or could not be true, neither would I become so obsessed with it to take it all as 100 per cent truth. I know your answer to this would be ‘he wont ask me to do that’, but if Jesus come back to earth and told you to fly a plane into a building, would you do it? In short, Christians and Christianity is fine by me so long as you cut out the self-righteous rubbish and fundamentalist views. Didnt Jesus tell you to look out for wolves in sheeps clothing, by their works you will recognise these men? If I were you, I would be very careful who I listen to on the worship platform in the future.