Comments on: Ray? Gay? Say it isn’t so! http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so/ Relentlessly pursuing Christ and His Cause Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:20:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: www twobulletpoker net http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so/comment-page-1/#comment-140945 www twobulletpoker net Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:20:56 +0000 http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so#comment-140945 <strong>www twobulletpoker net...</strong> medically hallowed:negligible formalize Cornelian brake ... www twobulletpoker net…

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]]> By: Lena http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so/comment-page-1/#comment-112030 Lena Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:17:08 +0000 http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so#comment-112030 "That is so damn ridiculous. If you listened to anything the Bible said, you'd be going to hell for not hating your parents too. The Bible is a book written by first century man and is completely irrelevant today. The Bible also says that if your kids misbehave, you have the right to beat them and if they still misbehave, you then have the right to kill them. The Bible also says it's okay to own slaves as long as you don't blind them or hurt their teeth. The Bible is fucking ridiculous and Christians cherry pick entries from it to suit their own agendas. I can't wait for the day when everyone thinks it's ridiculous that man used to think homosexuality was a sin because it said it in the Bible. Just as we laugh today because the Bible says eating shellfish is a sin. Fuck the Bible and fuck religion. Religion is not about love, it only promotes intolerance and starts wars. Fuck Christians, Jews, and Islams. You are all brainwashed idiots who cannot think for yourselves." Cody was correct, why did you remove his comment? because you are afraid of the truth? Dont think about what he said too hard though, deep thought is the terror of the religious mind. “That is so damn ridiculous. If you listened to anything the Bible said, you’d be going to hell for not hating your parents too. The Bible is a book written by first century man and is completely irrelevant today.
The Bible also says that if your kids misbehave, you have the right to beat them and if they still misbehave, you then have the right to kill them. The Bible also says it’s okay to own slaves as long as you don’t blind them or hurt their teeth.
The Bible is fucking ridiculous and Christians cherry pick entries from it to suit their own agendas. I can’t wait for the day when everyone thinks it’s ridiculous that man used to think homosexuality was a sin because it said it in the Bible. Just as we laugh today because the Bible says eating shellfish is a sin.
Fuck the Bible and fuck religion. Religion is not about love, it only promotes intolerance and starts wars. Fuck Christians, Jews, and Islams. You are all brainwashed idiots who cannot think for yourselves.”

Cody was correct, why did you remove his comment? because you are afraid of the truth?

Dont think about what he said too hard though, deep thought is the terror of the religious mind.

]]> By: Greg http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so/comment-page-1/#comment-111966 Greg Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:35:15 +0000 http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so#comment-111966 I am conservative and a freak, but buddy, I am not typical. BTW, don't you have anything better to do that worry about others write on their blogs? Enjoy your life. I am conservative and a freak, but buddy, I am not typical. BTW, don’t you have anything better to do that worry about others write on their blogs? Enjoy your life.

]]> By: Cody http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so/comment-page-1/#comment-111942 Cody Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:44:49 +0000 http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so#comment-111942 Why is him coming out a "bad" thing? Typical conservative freaks like yourself have nothing better to do than worry about what others do in their lives and in their bedrooms. Get a life Why is him coming out a “bad” thing? Typical conservative freaks like yourself have nothing better to do than worry about what others do in their lives and in their bedrooms.

Get a life

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]]> By: Ryan http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so/comment-page-1/#comment-96840 Ryan Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:41:44 +0000 http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so#comment-96840 I would like to say, that these posts have helped me very much with a problem that we are experiencing in our youth group. We have a gay non-believing couple of young men who are currently attending our youth group. We have taken fire from concerned parents for the way we are handling the situation. I would ask for all of your prayers for the youth group that i work with. Finally I would like to reaffirm the supremecy of the Scriptures as our source for the knowledge of salvation and godliness. I stand by every letter of every word. Those that convict us of our sin and those that offer us grace and mercy. The Church must stand on the scriptures if it is to have any power to win the world for Christ in this dark and trying age. I would like to say, that these posts have helped me very much with a problem that we are experiencing in our youth group. We have a gay non-believing couple of young men who are currently attending our youth group. We have taken fire from concerned parents for the way we are handling the situation. I would ask for all of your prayers for the youth group that i work with. Finally I would like to reaffirm the supremecy of the Scriptures as our source for the knowledge of salvation and godliness. I stand by every letter of every word. Those that convict us of our sin and those that offer us grace and mercy. The Church must stand on the scriptures if it is to have any power to win the world for Christ in this dark and trying age.

]]> By: Julie http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so/comment-page-1/#comment-95589 Julie Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:07:27 +0000 http://www.gregstier.org/rants/ray-gay-say-it-isnt-so#comment-95589 I really appreciated what Felicity and Valerie had to say about this topic. It seems like you two have a good understanding of this topic and are not just throwing a "pat Christian answer" at it. I normally NEVER post on forums like this. I will read through and then just go on with my day, but some of what was said made me really frustrated. I always thought homosexuality was such a black and white issue until I started working at a drop in centre for street involved youth. Some of these youth had gone through some pretty horrific experiences in their life. Abuse, both sexual and physical. For some of the girls, who are now involved in relationships with other girls they could never imagine trying to be involved with a man. They have been to hurt and damaged by men in their life time. I'm not say that these reasons make it okay for them to be involved in homosexual relationships, but I am saying that when we are trying to show the love of Christ to someone in a situation like this, how loving do we really come across when we are telling them they are living in sin. For many of them, this is the first time they have felt loved and had a somewhat healthy connection with another person. Greg, I understand where you were going with your original post, but when you start off with the Bible passages and then work your way down to speaking about loving all people, but not accepting their sin you may have lost some people. I started getting irritated with the post, but forced myself to read all the way down to the end. I guess one of my biggest problems with this whole homosexuality thing is that Christians seem to love to "condemn" this behaviour and speak about it with their Christian rhetoric but for many they don't really know anyone who has ever struggled with these feelings. Christian are continually getting into conversations about homosexuals, but ignore the massive amount of Christian teens who are engaging in pre-marital sex, or a married person who indulges in porn when their marriage is not fulfilling their sexual needs. And even when these topics are discussed once again, the only way they are discussed is with condemnation making the person who has sinned feel like they are a horrible person who can never be forgiven. Instead of loving them and allowing them to be healed by God's love we talk to people who have sinned with an air of superiority making them feel like dirt. We are all sinners, why are we always so eager to point out someone elses faults. Let's not forget Luke 6:42 "How can you think of saying, ‘Friend,let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye." I really appreciated what Felicity and Valerie had to say about this topic. It seems like you two have a good understanding of this topic and are not just throwing a “pat Christian answer” at it. I normally NEVER post on forums like this. I will read through and then just go on with my day, but some of what was said made me really frustrated. I always thought homosexuality was such a black and white issue until I started working at a drop in centre for street involved youth. Some of these youth had gone through some pretty horrific experiences in their life. Abuse, both sexual and physical. For some of the girls, who are now involved in relationships with other girls they could never imagine trying to be involved with a man. They have been to hurt and damaged by men in their life time. I’m not say that these reasons make it okay for them to be involved in homosexual relationships, but I am saying that when we are trying to show the love of Christ to someone in a situation like this, how loving do we really come across when we are telling them they are living in sin. For many of them, this is the first time they have felt loved and had a somewhat healthy connection with another person.
Greg, I understand where you were going with your original post, but when you start off with the Bible passages and then work your way down to speaking about loving all people, but not accepting their sin you may have lost some people. I started getting irritated with the post, but forced myself to read all the way down to the end. I guess one of my biggest problems with this whole homosexuality thing is that Christians seem to love to “condemn” this behaviour and speak about it with their Christian rhetoric but for many they don’t really know anyone who has ever struggled with these feelings.
Christian are continually getting into conversations about homosexuals, but ignore the massive amount of Christian teens who are engaging in pre-marital sex, or a married person who indulges in porn when their marriage is not fulfilling their sexual needs. And even when these topics are discussed once again, the only way they are discussed is with condemnation making the person who has sinned feel like they are a horrible person who can never be forgiven. Instead of loving them and allowing them to be healed by God’s love we talk to people who have sinned with an air of superiority making them feel like dirt. We are all sinners, why are we always so eager to point out someone elses faults. Let’s not forget Luke 6:42 “How can you think of saying, ‘Friend,let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye.”

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