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    Life with Jesus starts now and lasts forever

    Posted on Wednesday 5 August 2009 by Greg @ 9:38 pm
    Filed under: Rants

    God created us to be with him.
    Our sins separate us from God.
    Sins cannot be removed by good deeds.
    Paying the price for sins, Jesus died and rose again.
    Everyone who trusts in him alone has eternal life.
    Life that’s eternal can never be lost, er, I mean, we will be with Jesus forever…wait.

    We are making a change to the GOSPEL…wait, um, I don’t mean that like it sounded. What I mean is that we are changing the GOSPEL acrostic that we use to train students to share the best news on the planet. The change is to the “L” in the GOSPEL. This is actually the third change for the L. We love the L but want to get it just right. It’s nothing personal L but, well, although the Gospel never changes, the GOSPEL acrostic does from time to time.

    Originally the L stood for “Life that’s eternal can never be lost” which seems kinda redundant when you think about it.

    The second and most recent version was “Life eternal means we will be with Jesus forever.” An improvement but still not quite right. This was emphasized to me awhile ago by my fellow Dare 2 Share speaker Zane Black. He told me in his Zane way, “Dude, I love the GOSPEL but I’m all about the fact that eternal life starts now, not later.”

    At the time I patted him on his surfer/skater head and said something like, “Yeah, I agree with you and we can explain that to the students after we train them in the L the way that it is.” In other words, “Back off surfer boy cause the GOSPEL is already in the can, on the website, in countless pieces of curriculum and in The GOSPEL Journey Reality Series and I’m not about to change it…so wax your board and leave the acrostics to me.”

    Then, not all that long ago, Jason Lamb, the leader of our sales department at Dare 2 Share, and a former youth leader himself, emphasized to me the fact that he really didn’t like the “L” in the GOSPEL. He told me he thought it was incomplete…blah, blah, blah. It was basically all of the same reasons that Zane had stated and I kinda got ticked for all the same reasons I have already stated.

    But both Zane and Jason’s words got stuck in my craw and the Spirit of God used them to convict and convince me. I’ve come to the conclusion that Z and J were right and I was wrong.

    Dang it.

    So I reworked the L with Zane and here is what we came up with: “Life with Jesus starts now and lasts forever.”

    What I like about it is that it is Biblical (John 17:3 refers to eternal life as an intimate relationship with God), immediate (Jesus said in John 6:47 that we receive eternal life as soon as we believe), relevant (teens are looking for something now, not just later) and hopeful (heck, it still does last forever and heaven is a huge part of it.)

    So thanks Zane and Jason. God used your little intervention in a powerful way. I guess old dogs can learn new acronyms!

    Oh, by the way, you’re both fired.

    I kid. I kid.

    Signed, Greg Stier
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    6 Comments for 'Life with Jesus starts now and lasts forever'

    1. On August 6, 2009 @ 12:15 pm Becky said:
      • I like the L way better now.

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    2. On August 7, 2009 @ 2:16 am Katelyn Marissa said:
      • I agree with Becky.

        The muslim guy I was telling you about and how I wasn’t going to say anything to him yet. Well, he IMed me and we talked and I brought up how he had questions about Christianity and I told him to fire away. So he did. And I couldn’t answer any of them so I told him that I will try my hardest to find the answer and get back to you. he said ok.

        here’s the IM conversation:
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        muslim says:
        Hi

        Katie says:
        hey, whats up?

        muslim says:
        nothin much, u?
        r u katie from bebo?

        Katie says:
        Yes sir. I run Answers On Christianity

        muslim says:
        i see
        so, how are you doing?

        Katie says:
        Good. U?

        muslim says:
        doing great…alhamdulilah (praise be to allah)

        Katie says:
        soo, what do you want to talk about?

        muslim says:
        anything and everything under the sun…

        Katie says:
        lol
        what time is it where you are at?

        muslim says:
        pretty late…12am
        ur place?

        Katie says:
        wow. 2:11 a.m

        muslim says:
        wow man
        in uk?

        Katie says:
        Missouri

        muslim says:
        oh

        Katie says:
        so, earlier the other day when we talked through bebo, you said you have questions. You can ask them if you want to (=

        muslim says:
        ooh yea…i had
        so, i assume you r well learned in the bible and christianity in general?

        Katie says:
        basically

        muslim says:
        i see
        ok, my first question is about the bible

        Katie says:
        fire away

        muslim says:
        why are there so many versions of it?

        Katie says:
        That’s a really good question that is also my question. I have yet to understand why that is. I will try my hardest to find the answer for the both of us! and I promise to get back to you.

        muslim says:
        thats ok… please do…

        Katie says:
        I will.
        (=
        muslim says:
        ok next question…

        Katie says:
        alright

        muslim says:
        who are the people who wrote the bible? do you know even little about their lives?

        Katie says:
        there were 40 people who wrote it. I’m working on learning about their lives. kind of a tough job.
        I dont know all of their names.

        muslim says:
        i see, ok, no problem…take ur time
        alright, my last question for 2nite would be. Why are there so many contradictions in the bible? (note that im not “accusing”…im asking to know “why”…)

        Katie says:
        What do you mean “contradictions”? Where at? (Don’t worry, im not offended.(= )

        muslim says:
        well, you haven’t seen them? in my study of the bible i have came across tons of them, although i try to ignore them, i have seen obvious ones…i could share them with you if you want

        Katie says:
        yea that would be nice.

        muslim says:
        ok, for like this question How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?, in I Kings 4:26 it says 40, 000 but in 2 chronicles 9:25 it says 4000
        when i saw like this one and many others, i decided that the word of God must be perfect

        Katie says:
        thats a good question….I’ll work on finding the answer (=

        muslim says:
        i even checked this site http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/New-King-James-Version-NKJV-Bible/ to see if the book i had was mis-typed..
        i see…
        hey, i will be going to prayer early morning…so i think i need to head the bed…
        do you questions about islam….?
        do you have *
        I have to say, Alhamduillah (All praise be to Allah), All muslims have one quran, not even different versions.. also, no contradictions…it even says at the begining of the quran “This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah – ” 2:2

        Katie says:
        I added my question to the group you said i could join in the bebo message.

        muslim says:
        http://allahsquran.com/read/index.php
        im sure i will answer it if nobody else didn’t..
        Katie says:
        Thanks (=

        muslim:
        , contradictions in the Quran…good one, i will deffinatly love to respond to that question…give me thru 2morrow, because im kind tired now, i was expecting 1 or 2 easy questions…

        Katie says:
        alrighty, will do.

        muslim:
        ok, i will answer ur questions…and im waiting for you to answer mine…
        peace out

        Katie says:
        peace (= ill ttyl
        ——————————–
        Does anyone know the answers?

        I don’t know what to do, what to say, or what to think. To be honest it made me get shaken up. I’m questioning everything about Christianity and God. I know he’s real because he changed my life and he fixed my broken life. The guy IMed me at 2 a.m-ish. I didn’t want to talk to him…not to sound mean, but I didn’t want to get into the whole thing yet… I’m about to be in complete tears cus I’m so shaken up by this for the third time in less than an hour. help from anyone would be fantastic. Please pray for me as I talk with the guy and later today I’ll talk to an ex-atheist. My friend Matthew lead him to Christ. The ex-atheist lives in the UK and Matt is the US.

        I’m keeping the A.O.C bebo page thing away from my family, if I tell them they’ll make me feel odd and want to completly quit on what I’m doing. I don’t want to lose my faith… I’m afraid that could happen. IM SCARED!!!!!!!! and I think I’m completly crazy for making aoc… and wanting to expose every religion and what not. (just click on my name and it’ll take u to the page) Nothing seems to make sense to me anymore…. =/
        I need to handle these conversations the way Jesus would.

        Please pray. A teenage girl could use it.

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    3. On August 7, 2009 @ 7:16 am sharmer said:
      • Could you ask Zane and Jason to come to our church to repaint the L line on our youth room wall, then? We put GOSPEL on the wall to help constantly remind them of the acronym/acrostic…

        Time to find the stencils and paintbrushes….again….sigh.

        I DO like the new one, though.

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        ch33rfu1 Reply:
        August 8th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

        Duct tape! Duct tape has many uses!!

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    4. On August 8, 2009 @ 8:40 am Beckster said:
      • Nice team work, guys. I think the L now encapsulates a deeper and fuller meaning of “Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, on EARTH as it is in heaven.” It starts now!

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    5. On August 8, 2009 @ 4:49 pm ch33rfu1 said:
      • Praise God! The change rocks!

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