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		<title>By: www pacific pocker com</title>
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		<dc:creator>www pacific pocker com</dc:creator>
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<p>angled hounds!Demeter outset Nanook Methuen&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg...you put legalism into words perfectly!  Thanks for this post...it was really a blessing for me.

We are in the middle of searching for a new pastor for our church...and it was getting so discouraging seeing all these legalistic resumes of &quot;1611 KJV only&quot; and &quot;any music with a syncopated beat is the devil.&quot; It was really starting to get to me!

Thanks again!  I praise God for all you organization has done to help in our youth ministry!  I was excited to see your doing the GOSPEL JOURNEY Hawaii as well.  Let me know how we can help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg&#8230;you put legalism into words perfectly!  Thanks for this post&#8230;it was really a blessing for me.</p>
<p>We are in the middle of searching for a new pastor for our church&#8230;and it was getting so discouraging seeing all these legalistic resumes of &#8220;1611 KJV only&#8221; and &#8220;any music with a syncopated beat is the devil.&#8221; It was really starting to get to me!</p>
<p>Thanks again!  I praise God for all you organization has done to help in our youth ministry!  I was excited to see your doing the GOSPEL JOURNEY Hawaii as well.  Let me know how we can help!</p>
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		<title>By: Jorden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I agree legalism isn&#039;t good for anything. I&#039;ve been homeschooled since third grade(I&#039;m a junior now). I agree if homeschooling is done properly it can be a great asset. Because I really haven&#039;t done much with other homeschoolers I haven&#039;t witnessed it, but I agree with what your saying. I tend to do everything at home. Therefore I kind of improvise for my friends and from that most of my friends I&#039;ve either met online or at church. All I have left to say is that I memorize Bible verses in KJV because I&#039;m cool *puts on shades*, lol.

Godbless,
Jorden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I agree legalism isn&#8217;t good for anything. I&#8217;ve been homeschooled since third grade(I&#8217;m a junior now). I agree if homeschooling is done properly it can be a great asset. Because I really haven&#8217;t done much with other homeschoolers I haven&#8217;t witnessed it, but I agree with what your saying. I tend to do everything at home. Therefore I kind of improvise for my friends and from that most of my friends I&#8217;ve either met online or at church. All I have left to say is that I memorize Bible verses in KJV because I&#8217;m cool *puts on shades*, lol.</p>
<p>Godbless,<br />
Jorden</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble with legalism is that it&#039;s a disease that other people get. ;O)

ED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with legalism is that it&#8217;s a disease that other people get. ;O)</p>
<p>ED</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher suspended for showing GodTube &#8216;Letter from Hell&#8217; at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher suspended for showing GodTube &#8216;Letter from Hell&#8217; at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and which promotes &#8216;extreme&#8217; events. The groups headquarters is in Arvada Colorado. The groups leader has a blog and posted on the Dec. 9th shootings in Arvada. No comment on the media page of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shane Vander Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Vander Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I homeschool our kids and have done so for seven years.  We have seen good and bad.  I wrestled with this because as a youth pastor I felt like our kids need to be involved in public school in order to be salt and light.  I also worried about the &quot;socialization&quot; issue... you know what though?  When you place a bunch of 4th graders in the same room, what do they learn to become?  Better fourth graders.  At no other time in their life will they be segmented based on age.  Now my kids have the opportunity to be around more adults, older kids, and they also have the ability to serve younger kids in different clubs and groups that we are a part of.  My wife and I get to be the primary influencers as we should be.  Also our kids have the opportunity to be salt and light with kids in the neighborhood and in extra-curricular activities.

I am not one who says homeschooling is for everybody... like I said before I&#039;ve seen it done badly by people who were not equipped to do it.  I have also seen legalistic families do it too, but there are also legalistic families who send their kids to public schools.  I agree with Big Daddy, and I understand the point you are making Greg.  I guess when you said &quot;kids who are appropriately socialized&quot; it made me think of all the times I have heard that term used by people who disagree with me being a home educator.  I know you don&#039;t mean it in the way those people do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I homeschool our kids and have done so for seven years.  We have seen good and bad.  I wrestled with this because as a youth pastor I felt like our kids need to be involved in public school in order to be salt and light.  I also worried about the &#8220;socialization&#8221; issue&#8230; you know what though?  When you place a bunch of 4th graders in the same room, what do they learn to become?  Better fourth graders.  At no other time in their life will they be segmented based on age.  Now my kids have the opportunity to be around more adults, older kids, and they also have the ability to serve younger kids in different clubs and groups that we are a part of.  My wife and I get to be the primary influencers as we should be.  Also our kids have the opportunity to be salt and light with kids in the neighborhood and in extra-curricular activities.</p>
<p>I am not one who says homeschooling is for everybody&#8230; like I said before I&#8217;ve seen it done badly by people who were not equipped to do it.  I have also seen legalistic families do it too, but there are also legalistic families who send their kids to public schools.  I agree with Big Daddy, and I understand the point you are making Greg.  I guess when you said &#8220;kids who are appropriately socialized&#8221; it made me think of all the times I have heard that term used by people who disagree with me being a home educator.  I know you don&#8217;t mean it in the way those people do.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Stier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Stier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Eddie! That&#039;s exactly what I&#039;m saying!</description>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so I understand your comments better... I believe you&#039;re making a comment on the types of homeschooling and not really homeschooling itself?

Taking for example these two extremes from both types: Tim Tebow (homeschooled, University of Florida Heisman Trophy qb for 2007)on one side and the kids from the Ruby Ridge or the Waco Texas tragedies some years ago.

The issue isnt the homeschooling but legalism within the curriculum? I think that&#039;s what I get from what you&#039;re saying. Personally, I think homeschooling is great. I know many families who were wonderful homeschool examples. I also know many who were not. The problem wasnt homeschooling but how it was done.

Legalism is a problem in ANY school format, family, or ministry and in any form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so I understand your comments better&#8230; I believe you&#8217;re making a comment on the types of homeschooling and not really homeschooling itself?</p>
<p>Taking for example these two extremes from both types: Tim Tebow (homeschooled, University of Florida Heisman Trophy qb for 2007)on one side and the kids from the Ruby Ridge or the Waco Texas tragedies some years ago.</p>
<p>The issue isnt the homeschooling but legalism within the curriculum? I think that&#8217;s what I get from what you&#8217;re saying. Personally, I think homeschooling is great. I know many families who were wonderful homeschool examples. I also know many who were not. The problem wasnt homeschooling but how it was done.</p>
<p>Legalism is a problem in ANY school format, family, or ministry and in any form.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Stier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Stier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you guys know I actually think homeschooling, when done properly and with love and balance is a great (and probably the most Biblical) way to teach your children. It&#039;s not homeschooling I have a problem with at all. It&#039;s legalistic homeschooling strategies that are in some streams of the homeschooling movement. Some of the best young people I know are products of homeschooling done in a loving, relevant, Biblical and socialized way. Some of the worst young people I&#039;ve met are products of the legalistic stream of the homeschooling movement and some of the more legalistic Christian schools (one of which I graduated from). It&#039;s not homeschooling that I have a problem with...it&#039;s legalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you guys know I actually think homeschooling, when done properly and with love and balance is a great (and probably the most Biblical) way to teach your children. It&#8217;s not homeschooling I have a problem with at all. It&#8217;s legalistic homeschooling strategies that are in some streams of the homeschooling movement. Some of the best young people I know are products of homeschooling done in a loving, relevant, Biblical and socialized way. Some of the worst young people I&#8217;ve met are products of the legalistic stream of the homeschooling movement and some of the more legalistic Christian schools (one of which I graduated from). It&#8217;s not homeschooling that I have a problem with&#8230;it&#8217;s legalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was homeschooled through fourth grade. I would not trade that experience for the world! I like the opportunities public school has given me (like being on the debate squad!) but homeschooling gave me a Biblical and critical thinking foundation I do not believe our public school system is capable of providing.

And on a different note, whether a kid is homeschooled or not is not going to make a killer or nonkiller out of him. The kids at Columbine as well as this Matthew Murray had the same problem: sin and a lack of Christ&#039;s love in their life. We should reach out and try to love people like Murray along with any and every homeschooler who is under a negative influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was homeschooled through fourth grade. I would not trade that experience for the world! I like the opportunities public school has given me (like being on the debate squad!) but homeschooling gave me a Biblical and critical thinking foundation I do not believe our public school system is capable of providing.</p>
<p>And on a different note, whether a kid is homeschooled or not is not going to make a killer or nonkiller out of him. The kids at Columbine as well as this Matthew Murray had the same problem: sin and a lack of Christ&#8217;s love in their life. We should reach out and try to love people like Murray along with any and every homeschooler who is under a negative influence.</p>
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