Comments on: Fight Club for Christians

By: Caffeinated Thoughts - » Twenty Items of Interest (v.5)

Caffeinated Thoughts - » Twenty Items of Interest (v.5) — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:21:52 +0000

[...] 9.Â Greg Stier lists seven sentences that should be fighting words for Christians. [...]

By: Gina

Gina — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:58:58 +0000

Wow!! Thanks Greg your dare to share speeches opened my eyes to the unseen……. I want to thank you because you showed me that God and Jesus loves everyone even those who think he doesnt……. I loved going to dare to share andw I cant wait to go again…….. You showed me the love fo Christ and the wonderful things that he could do ion my life……… I cant wait to see what His plan is for me in the near future…….. thanks again for all your help…..

Gina

By: Heather

Heather — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:50:40 +0000

Wow Adam you are so SMART, not that I didn’t know that, but I didn’t know you used such big words…..

Greg can I just say that I love it when you do chapel? Maybe I’m partial, but I inevitably end up getting smacked upside the head with some nugget of truth! So thanks for making my Wednesdays at work that much more enjoyable

And uh Ken you just used fighting words ^^^^^^^^^ there……

By: Ken Smith

Ken Smith — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:05:50 +0000

Hey Greg, great stuff! I am new to your site and will poke around at other stuff here. I have been writing a blog for a while which didn’t attract a lot of readers but one post might be of interest to you for your first post â€œChristians shouldnâ€™t debate theology.â€ Here is the link;

http://brotherken.wordpress.com/2006/12/20/thou-shalt-not-judge/

Looking forward the series.

By: societyvs

societyvs — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:20:18 +0000

Interesting 7 points there – I think I will respond to a few of them – since some of this has peaked my interest.

1. I am in agreement about point 1 – I think we need to discuss doctrine and biblical values a church holds to.

2. Jesus as the sole way to heaven – I had this debate on my blog a few times already – but if you don’t mind – explain your position (which I am guessing is about exclusivity)? However, even of he is ‘the way’ – what is the way as explained in John 14?

3. “The way of work verses the way of grace is an either/or proposition.” (Greg). Total supposition on your part – James’ epistle, oddly enough, does not seperate the 2 – neither do the gospels. As for the Matthew 5:21-48 section – are you saying this is impossible? Why would a teacher (Jesus) give his disciples a teaching they could not adhere to?

4. I would say there is a lot we can know from the scriptures themselves and the least of that is spiritual truth – but basic ideas on values a building paradigms for our lives – based on the teachings of Jesus. But I ask you – what is the difference between a spiritual truth and the truth?

5. The red letters arguement has a counter-arguement – and it ain’t related to the parables at all. For example, who do you follow – Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, or John? Whom do the gospels say they are about? Why do the very books of the person you claim to follow (even the very words) take a backseat to some letters from someone we do not follow? The gospels are quite simply accounts of Jesus – the letters are accounts of the disciples – which truly holds more weight?

6. Your defense of hell is very weak. We have a very mean God it would seem. He delights in eternal torture – even the very flesh of your human body being burned for 1000′s upon 1000′s of years? All this based on 20-100 years of living upon earth – does the judgment fit the crime first off? Secondly, if we are born with a sin nature – then we are likely to sin? Thirdly, did Jesus die for all the people of the planet or some? God’s love is conditional apparently – if Jesus is only good for some.

7. As for the good news being a set of propositions – I have very little problem with this – then again I would need to hear the whole argument fleshed out – but as of now – propositions is just as good as asking us to do something – which in turn makes following Christ’s teachings voluntary.

By: Them’s Fighting Words!…HUH? « Losing My Religion

Them’s Fighting Words!…HUH? « Losing My Religion — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:58:15 +0000

[...] 2008 at 9:57 am (Uncategorized) Shane pointed me in the direction of this blogpost by Greg Stier – ‘fight club for Christians’. The reason this intrigues me is because we have been discussing some of these issues on this blog [...]

By: Twenty Items of Interest (v.5) « Shane Vander Hart

Twenty Items of Interest (v.5) « Shane Vander Hart — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:47:49 +0000

[...] 9. Greg Stier lists seven sentences that should be fighting words for Christians. [...]

By: L. Cope

L. Cope — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:49:36 +0000

I had to give my two cents concerning Monica’s comment above.

What has happened to our educational system when we have to define words like “propositional” and “relational” for teenagers in greater depth? Don’t teenagers know how to open a dictionary?

By: Eddie

Eddie — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:48:36 +0000

Adam,

I sent you an email.

Monica,

Good point. I apologize for any confusion in my comments.

By: Monica Sagehorn

Monica Sagehorn — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:50:26 +0000

Gentlemen, May I propose that if you are going to use prose such as propositional and relational on a website that is frequented by teenagers, you may wish to add definitions for these words. Just something I “propose” as someone who tries to “relate” information to teenagers (who are young and do not have a large vocabulary) on a daily basis. Thanks!