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1. On September 22, 2006 @ 6:25 pm Becky said:

   • Youth leaders I really appreciate your hard work. ~Becky~ 

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2. On September 23, 2006 @ 7:17 pm Shell said:

   • I CANNOT WAIT TO READ THAT BOOK!!  It will be available in MN, right? I think at some point every youth leader feels like Ty. Life is not designed to be perfect, neither are our youth ministries. Maybe that’s because we’re working with youth?? (lol) I’m relatively new at this ’youth leader’ role, and I hope I never feel like I have control of it. My teens teach me a lot. I hope to never stop growing closer to them and to God. It’s very encouraging to have people like you, Greg, who have been there & can give us rookies more insight.  Thank you for all you do.  See you in a few weeks!!

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3. On September 23, 2006 @ 7:31 pm BigDaddy said:

   • Umm..wow….. Have you ever known somebody like Ty who is discouraged, depressed and sickened at their youth ministry situation? Yes, me (is that pathetic?) Have you ever felt like quitting youth ministry? Why or why not? Yes, lack of respect and being taken seriously by the adults ("he’s that guy that works with the kids") Like its just something we do to pass time. The devistation to my family(seeing the way the "church" treats myself and them) Students who can site all the verses but live none of them out. Not sleeping the night before an elders meeting. What are the major factors in youth leaders feeling discouraged in the average church?Lack of: help,respect,support,prayer,mentoring, urgency….. What words of encouragement would you have for youth leaders? Removing just one "destined for hell" tattoo from the forehead of a student with the message of Christ makes it all worth it. Getting to be Tony 20 years from now. BTW….clicking now to order Minisrty Mutiny! See you in Texas Greg.

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4. On September 25, 2006 @ 11:58 am Tim said:

   • What are the major factors in youth leaders feeling discouraged in the average church? Seems to me that most feel like they’re on their own, under-valued, under-paid, under-loved. Most, if not all, feedback they ever receive is negative. Youth pastors need support, prayer, and encouragement from every source available.

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5. On September 25, 2006 @ 1:36 pm knotter said:

   • 1.  Yes…I’ve been there. 2. Yes.  Too much "babysitting" and not enough ministry.  Little respect from others in the church.  No support. 3.  The support, or lack thereof.  I think Tim summed it up vey well.  Sometimes it feels like you’re always waiting for something to hit the fan. 4. One day the students we work with will be adults.  We have an opportunity to instill within them (with God’s help) the characteristics and attitudes that will be supportive of youth leaders in the future.  You can (and will) make a difference!

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6. On September 26, 2006 @ 7:01 pm Carrie said:

   • What words of encouragement for youth leaders? Are you tired? Good, you’re doing your job. Are you sick of being looked at like you’re crazy because you care about teens (even by some of the parents)?  Great.  Realize you have a special gift.  Do you feel overwhelmed by the unrealistic expectations council members, pastors, parents, and even the teens have of you? Even better. It will help you rely on and turn to the power of God.  Realize it’s not about you, it’s all for Him and them and remind yourself of that daily.  Hourly?  Minutely?    Have you ever felt like quitting youth ministry?  Of course!   It’s very taxing on my time and energy which makes it difficult for the whole family.  Sometimes I get sucked into the devil’s lies that I’m too old for the job, don’t have enough years of training, aren’t going to be able to balance family and ministry, there isn’t any "future" in this field, etc.  The devil assaults us as youth leaders with this question of quitting constantly, doesn’t he?  Some other job would be easier, pay more, be less hassle, gain us more appreciation, etc. right? Maybe so, but as far as I’ve seen  there is no greater high then leading a teen to Christ and seeing them come alive in Him.  What are major factors in youth leaders feeling discouraged?  Knowing you have full valuable treasure chests just waiting to be opened, and nobody is willing to help pay for, find  or insert the keys that will open them.  Most  would deny there’s even treasure there.  It’s maddening to know the riches are there, you can’t possibly reach them all yourself, and not nearly enough people will get up off the pews, climb aboard the pirate ship, and start digging at the X (youth room).

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7. On September 27, 2006 @ 8:18 pm Christian Abernatha said:

   • greg, just wanted to let you know how much i praise the Lord for you and D2S.  you ask me to e-mail a testamony to you when you were in St. Louis last week, and i would love to do that just let me know where to send it.  see you in Chicago on march 30-31. praying for you, Christian Abernatha

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8. On September 30, 2006 @ 5:25 pm Ashley Buckner said:

   • Go youth leaders! I don’t know where I’d be without you! And Greg, just wanted to say that in my Brio mag I saw your D2S book  and I’m gonna try and get up some money to buy it. And guess what? I wore my Loser shirt to the football game last night and I did get alot of approval from alot of different kids. But one of the girl’s who plays soccer with me shook her head like she was dissapointed and I wasn’t able to ask her than, but I plan to ask her later about why she didn’t like what the back of the shirt had to say. So keep your fingers crossed, pray, and we’ll see where God goes with this. Signing off, Ashley

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9. On October 4, 2006 @ 2:29 pm Heath said:

   • Greg, I just finished reading your book, "Ministry Mutiny".  I bought it at the Nashville conference this past weekend.  My heart resonated with everything you said.  I am currently in my first pastorate, a bi-vocational position that includes everything from cleaning the floors, to preaching and leading the youth group.  It has been, basically, a church re-plant.  I have experienced the privelege/burden/excitement/depression of calling into question the things going on in the church and it has been real work; not to mention that I am married and have three daughters.  Unfortunately, I believe the church was going a mile wide and an inch deep when it was at its peek, particularly in the youth ministry.  It cost the church dearly, as they were down to about 20 people when I was led to take the pastorate.  We have worked to establish a new, firm foundation in our beliefs and our core values.  We went through the "40 Days of Purpose" about three months into the re-start, which helped to motivate some, but we still have a long way to go.  Your book has given credence to the direction I have felt God leading and it has helped me to see some things that I need to be doing differently.  I plan to "hi-jack" your youth ministry principles and use them with our church, I hope you don’t mind.   Bless you and Dare2Share.  <><Heath><>

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10. On October 11, 2006 @ 10:30 am Chris said:

    • Greg,  Excellent book!  I loved it.  In fact I purchased it Monday afternoon and just finished it!  I can’t wait to begin to implement some of these ideas in my youth group.  Thank you.  Chris

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11. On October 18, 2006 @ 12:55 pm Rob said:

    • Greg, Great book. Loved the 30 questions in the Grow Deep chapter! A ministry mutiny principle that you didn’t state in the book, but showed up throughout the book was "finding a mentor from outside your church".  Great book man! Rob

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12. On October 25, 2006 @ 4:26 pm 5 loaves, 2 fish….did someone say Fish? said:

    • [...] I have been slowly making my way through a new book I received in the mail. It is a new book by Greg Stier called “Ministry Mutiny.” It’s not a how-to manual, or even some kind of revolt against the elders of your church. In fact, as Greg would say, it really isn’t all that cutting-edge nor does it introduce some new “fail proof” method for a successful youth group. It does however capture the essence of youth ministry. I think the fact that it is a “fable” is the reason Greg can walk us through some very engaging issues that we struggle with. Instead of simply rattling off all the things we could complain about, he brings them to life and then deals with them. The solutions are primarily Biblical principals we have just forgotten all about. I say I have been slowly making my way through it. That’s because each concept deserves my honest contemplation as well as time to work on my heart. I have many flaws. As with “Ty”, I have my own “Tony” who has helped me walk through my struggles and pains. I thank God for my “Tony”. He is always there to encourage me, or let me vent, and to always remind me that its worth it. And he never spares any mercy to get in the ‘ol “welcome to youth ministry brother.” If you are a student reading this, I ask you a simple favor; be patient with me. I will give you my heart. I will make mistakes. (dramatic pause) There is nothing more I can promise than that. Look to God for promises. If you are a youth leader, read the book, check your heart, and go with God. Listen for His whisper. [...]

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13. On October 26, 2006 @ 6:43 pm Mark said:

    • Greg,  I just received Ministry Mutiny at YS NYWC in Austin.  By the way, thanks so much for the free copy.  The book is fantastic.  I concure with every biblical principle you have brought to light.  It is refreshing.   I passed my copy on to my senior pastor and he likes it too.  It fits in with our church philosophy.  Today, I met with a networkof YPs and recommended it to them. Blessings,  Mark The Bald fella who was also at PF Changs (good food, huh!)

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14. On December 5, 2006 @ 5:26 pm kevin said:

    • The foward of this book should have been written by Ken Blanchard. His books are written in a very similar fashion (Gung Ho!) for example. So that being said I gues he did help write the concept of this book. I pray someday soon will come a day when another book doesn’t need to be written about how to live our life or another 1-100 step priciple that we need to  learn. WHEN WILL WE AS BELEIVERS LIVE THE LIFE THAT THESE TYPE OF BOOKS ASK US TO BE?!? Why is it that we can read these books and say: "Hey this is a copy of so and so’s book." As I can obviously tell with this book? I know many of us Chritains try and follow these principles and I love Greg and Dare 2 Share (they have helped me and my walk in faith) I pray someday soon will come a day when "Christian" book store are not filled with people buying books that have been copied by other authors with thousand of titles for sale and be bought and sold. Only for that book to just sit on a dusty old shelf with other books. Maybe instead of that money going to yet another book to be bought and sold it can go to that cold man on the corner or that poor person in a far away land that is crying out to Jesus Christ right now saying "Lord, please help me!" kevinr88@msn.com

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15. On December 12, 2006 @ 11:18 am Richard Peck said:

    • Thanks for the great book!  I’m always impressed by what you guys put out there.  God sure knows what He’s doing up there as He always makes the right "divine appointments".  I am frustrated, discouraged, sometimes feeling defeated, even to the point that I have questioned why about everything in my ministry to the youth of our church.  But now, I am feeling hopeful, encouraged, excited about the possbilities, and ready to get down to business.  No one should ever say that they have learned enough or know it all, because I’m learning all I can.  I just want to see students lives transformed by the gospel of Jesus Christ because it is the power of God unto salvation for all who believe.  It’s gonna be a long, hard, tiring process to execute Ministry Mutiny but these principles speak volumes to me now at this time in what God has called me and gifted (this book refreshed my memory about that!) me to do.  Thank you D2S and thank you, Greg!

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16. On January 5, 2007 @ 1:52 am Bradley McCarty said:

    • First of all, I am not a reader, which I know is bad for a youth pastor. So, that’s saying something that I just finished reading Ministry Mutiny in 3 hours and 40 minutes straight! I couldn’t put it down and I finised it at 2:40 A.M.!!! My cousin-in-laws husband who is also a youth pastor gave it to me for Christmas. This was totally unexpected and I didn’t have anything for him. But, now I know, it was TOTALLY God! I needed this book! I would typicaly think a book was the worst gift in the world and put it on my shelf in my office to make myself looked learned. But, I thank God I started reading it (while going to the bathroom) and couldn’t put it down. I have been struggling with leaving my current church or maybe even youth ministry entirely. I haven’t even had time to process it, and part of me is still wanting to rebel against the simplisity of it. I may have some questions later. But, I’m praying this can give me a new start after 3 years into Youth ministry too.

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17. On January 5, 2007 @ 9:28 am PS343 said:

    • Here is my first question (from Bradley McCarty if it’s changed now ’cause I registered). You never say you are Ty or Tony or if they are real people and this is based on real events. So, I’m wandering if these principles are actual practiced and tested or just theory, so to speak? Not that they have to be to be good principles. After all, they are Bible based. But, I’m more wandering how I get my youth group of 24 kids to that point and what to expect along the way.

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18. On January 9, 2007 @ 11:01 pm DLynn said:

    • Sounds interesting. I have to admit that my husband and I have had conversations regarding today’s "youth groups" and the danger that lurks therein. I see gimmicks, gadgets, games galore. I see flashing lights and music excitement and more. I see youth with a vision and youth confused. I hear a Gospel preached with flesh and flare, but I regret to say I see a crucified life nowhere. (I think I hear a song in those words)copyrighted 1-9-07 DRH Harsh? You bet! I would say this to the youth leaders of today, "what you do to bring them in , you will have to do to keep them." The Gospel of Jesus Christ does not need to be sold. It doesn’t need the clever ideas of man to draw in the lost, save them and disciple them. The Gospel has , does and will ALWAYS be able to stand on it’s own. It needs no fancy package. I do not question the motives of our brothers and sisters who have a heart for the youth of today. I am a mentor to many young women myself. I do , and will challenge however, the technique’s used to tickle the ear and delight the eye. It is compromise, in my opinion. We have two teen girls of our own. They are sold out the whole route, beautiful, and Godly young women. They have been members in two different churches through out their lives, one in Seattle and one here in South Carolina where we now live. We have visited many churches hoping to find one JUST one that will give these kids what they need and not some glittery, flashy prostituted Gospel that is based on having an "experience" rather than a "transformation." OK, I vented a bit there.   I was raised, and have raised my children with the knowledge that as soon as we try and bottle  God and sell Him as a feeling, experience or a hyped up cool thing, we’ve missed it! He is Holy and we are called to be holy. We are NOT to look like ,act like sound like or mirror the world with it’s newest, coolest hippest —- fill in the blank. We are called to be a peculiar people. Right? We are not to fit in. We are to be odd, weird and unafraid. Ambassadors in chains, fishers of men, faithful believers able to teach others also. Are there disciples coming out of the packed out youth groups of today? They are few and far between. Now for a word of encouragement. To our brave, precious and unsung youth leaders… "with God little is much." Remember all it takes is one seed, but the ground it’s planted on will determine the harvest. Plant excitement and you will reap excitement. Plant righteousness and you will reap souls. Now go therefore and preach. In His Armor, D~ 

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19. On February 6, 2007 @ 1:50 pm Matt said:

    • I am a Youth Pastor who has been at it for over 10 years. I have alot to learn, not alot to say. I have had those days where i have the resignation letter written and the application to another job filled out sitting on my desk. I was so afraid of not doing what God called me to do though. It was not a fear of Him striking me down, or of Him hurting me somehow, but a fear of not being in His will and a fear of not feeling the joy that He gives when we do what He has called us to do. Sure, there have been numerous times i have thought about giving up on my ministry and my calling, then one of those kids who have grown up in your ministry calls and tells you they are serving God in some ministry somewhere else. (It has happened more than once Praise God!!) So many times our discouragement somes from our focus. We began to look at self rather than the cross. Sure, we all have those times we feel like the "Church Political System" is our enemy, or our youth are just not where they need to be spiritualy.  But it does not excuse us from our calling!  Has God called you?

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20. On March 27, 2007 @ 11:05 am siglerjo said:

    •  Greg, You rock! Just when I think that you have went above and beyond and can’t get any better, you prove me wrong. I have been to two Dare2Share events, I have read two of your books and I love everything. I am only a volunteer in youth ministry, but I love what it is all about. Thank you for all your help. Keep up the great work, I know that the Holy Spirit lives and shines bright around you.

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21. On April 17, 2007 @ 6:03 am Elisabeth said:

    • Good job, here and there!!! Keep it up, I like your guestbook!!! Please add your comments at my

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22. On May 8, 2007 @ 11:13 am ChadL777 said:

    • Greg, I just recently read "Ministry Mutiny" and it really gave me a fresh perspective on ministry.  As a matter of fact, I met with our youth leadership team and we have adopted a new purpose statement that reads:  Go Wide and Grow Deep.  Hope that is not plagurism but the principles are undeniably God’s Word.  They are all excited and want to read "Ministry Munity".  Thank you Greg for allowing God to speak through your book.  It has and will continue to make a difference in Student ministry and the Kingdom of God.

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23. On May 9, 2007 @ 2:03 pm Andrew Suite said:

    • Awesome book, Greg! As a Youth Director approaching the 1 1/2 years in ministry mark, this couldn’t have come at a better time! I’ve started to become what I swore I never would become…a guy who works hard, putting my own effort in and merely sprinkling a little God on top of all of my stuff as almost an after thought rather than focsuing on Him and what He’s doing and catching that wave of blessing. I’m ready for His Ministry Mutiny! Since it’s not really MY ministry anyway. I know Tony says toward the end of the book that it’s not easy to commit Ministry Mutiny and it will take some hard work and that every situation is different, but can you or anyone for that matter suggest some "baby steps," Dave Ramsey’s FPU or "What About Bob?" style. In other words, Dave talks about $1,000 in savings first, then begin aggressively paying off your debts…etc. What would some "Ministry Mutiny" baby steps look like? Obviously the first one might be to get to the cave and get on your face before God. In Him, Andrew, Youth Director – Logansport IN

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24. On June 19, 2007 @ 7:47 am Evangelist Ogbera Joshua said:

    • My name are Evangelist Ogbera Joshua from Lagos Nigeria, I want to know how I can plant or install my own ministry.  I will be very happy to hear from you.  Thanks  Yours in Christ  Evang. Ogbera Joshua, Lagos Nigeria

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25. On June 29, 2007 @ 7:01 pm Eric Coley said:

    • Greg, The Lord led your website to me. I have been in youth ministry for 15 years, and in God’s strength I have seen a lot of Students come to know Christ. I give God the glory for everything that he has done in my ministry. God knew I needed to find a book and or a resource such as "Ministry Mutiny". I recently was terminated from my church, because they said I wasn’t connecting with the students anymore, and that I was building to many relationships outside of the church and not spending enough time dealing with the church kids and the youth council. I will admit I was having better ministry success building relationships with the local High School Football Coach, and finding out where he stood spiritually than I was with my own kids. The reason why I was having success outside the church instead of inside the church was due to the simple fact that the people outside the church are real, and I do not find myself trying to fight through different mask the students and people put on in the church. I ask that you pray for me. I am going to buy your book. I am in need of a fresh word. I am torn to go into full-time pastorate or stay with youth ministry. I am trying to support my family as well as trying to seek out guidance from the Lord. I do not have a ministry at this time. I know God is there, but I still feel alone at times and I have alot of questions going through my mind. Once again, please pray that God will give peace that passes all understanding. In Christ, Eric Coley.

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26. On June 29, 2007 @ 10:01 pm Greg said:

    • I will pray for you Eric. May the Lord guide you in his path in his time.

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27. On August 16, 2007 @ 9:49 am Youth Wife said:

    • I bought this book for my husband, who has been in the youth ministry (jr/sr high) for almost 4 years. However, I couldn’t put it down. That book was written as if you were peering into our daily lives. My husband is an exact "Ty." We are currently determining whether to stay or go from our current church due to the lack of parent support and complaints we seem to be getting because my husband’s lessons are too "boring." They are strictly bible based studies and our kids are so spiritually immature they cannot connect to the lesson unless a game or something fun is involved. I am praying that he can find his "Tony." Our church is very connected in our community and it is hard for him to find someone he can confide in. I think God led me to this book for a divine reason. Maybe it is God’s whisper to stay put and keep trying. It’s breaking our hearts to think of leaving our kids, but how long do you continue to try? Thank you so much for an insightful book that will change lives everywhere. It would be amazing to think of the difference a "mutiny" would make in the world!

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28. On August 17, 2007 @ 2:28 pm Greg said:

    • I’ll pray that your husband finds his "Tony"!

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29. On August 24, 2007 @ 2:12 pm KATHY BENJAMIN said:

    • I just finished the book . I could not read it fast enough . As a parent of a blooming 12 year old a can not get enough information. I passed the book on to our youth minister .  Although I think that we have an peogresive program for all our youth, I do not think that there is never a point that we have all the informatiion that we will ever need . Thanks for inspire our youth and thier leaders . They are our future Church .

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30. On September 6, 2007 @ 7:51 pm emanna said:

    • I want you to know that I finished your book in about 3 days, and had to keep myself from reading it all the way through.  I am a mentor to our local homeschool group, and we are starting a small group just for our teens (approx. 35 teens from 7th – 12th grade).  Your book has totally turned my world upside down!  How refreshing to hear such truth BEFORE we start into teen ministry.  God placed this book in my hand at just the right time.  I’m planning on laying out the principles found in Ministry Mutiny to our parents on Friday during our first meeting. A common misconception amongst homeschoolers is, "If I keep them home and homeschool them, shelter them from the world, and take them to church, and choose their friends, etc. etc. then they’ll follow Christ for the rest of their lives."  It takes more purposeful planning than even that.  We’ve all heard the horror stories.  Many homeschool students struggle once they’re out of the nest and heading to college.  Perhaps not academically (we’ve prepared them well in this area), but definately spiritually.  As homeschool parents we tend to focus most of our energy on their education, and even their socialization, but not as much on their spiritual growth.  We assume that since we’re raising them in Christian homes that they’ll "catch" our faith.  But if the parents themselves are not modeling a life passionate for Christ, then the chances of that are slim.  They need adults who can be real with them, and love them no matter what may come their way.  They need to have truth injected into every area of their lives.  What an awesome privelege it is to be a part of this ministry! Thank you for this amazing book.  Truly I felt like it was from God’s heart to your ears.  Thanks for being such a great listener to His "whisperings".

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31. On September 7, 2007 @ 12:52 pm Greg said:

    • Emanna,

      Thank you SO much for your encouragement. In the next two months we should have some downloadables on http://www.dare2share.org to help you communicate the Deep and Wide ministry philosophy more effectively. Keep pushing those homeschoolers deep and wide! Greg

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32. On September 28, 2007 @ 1:49 pm allthenations said:

    • What a great book. It really challenged me in some areas… and some areas we were already trying to implement what you had written so it was good to hear it from another angle. Thanks for your honesty and gut-level approach. The book was hard to put down.

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33. On December 1, 2007 @ 2:38 pm Vessel said:

    • Hey Greg hows it going I see that you guys are comin to phoenix in Feb march of 2008.Hey if you get a chance check out my page on myspace I may have a few songs that I have put together that may go along with you purpose.I would love the opportunity to audition for you and staff I only want to glorify God and wake up those of us who know Christ and his power but don’t put it to use.Our God is a very powerful God and I want to reinforce that into our minds and the minds of our youths.The songs on my page are” Do you feel the call” “Blindmemutemecutmesaveme”and “Spiritual battle”.If you like I can send you a Cd so you can check em out in your car!I’m no pro but I feel my call is to create relationships with people who God tells me are his warriors and through my friendship and music Wake them up……..alot of us know Christ alot of us love Christ but we’re afraid for some reason to speak about Christ I want to help change that.Thanks for your time..

      Vessel
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    • My god u kept me entertained.

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35. On January 30, 2008 @ 2:56 pm felisha said:

    • hey greg,
      i know we havent talked for a while but i remember last year before the st louis tour started you went for a hair cut and yoiu went bald… ha ha lol well one of my friends has cancer and she has been doing chemo for a while she is losing her hair so i was goin to shave my head for her but my boyfriend stopped me and also my love for my hair well e mail me at job3714@gmail.com and we can talk some more

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36. On February 6, 2008 @ 11:07 pm Alex said:

    • Greg,
      I love this book! I got it Saturday in Columbus. I started reading it Monday evening, fell asleep reading it Tuesday night and then finished Wednesday (today) morning. I really wish someone had told me the truths and ideas in this book before I got into youth ministry. The3 plot and story line is very entertaining and fun to read, but the truths in it are gold. Thanks so much!
      Alex

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37. On March 4, 2008 @ 12:03 pm BaptistGirl said:

    • Haven’t read the book yet but it sounds VERY interesting.I can totally relate to that youth leader feeling frustrated with his youth.Our youth leader was getting that way with us and he finally told us he would NOT babysit us anymore. He said he was here to talk and serve Jesus and we just messed around. He gave us another chance & i am happy to say we listen & pay attention more because of a hunger for the word & a desire to know Him more.This happened partly b\c of Dare2Share & b\c we realized how much our youth leader meant to us. So i wud just like to say to all those youth leaders out there, hang on.We may not listen all the time but if you can find it there is a willingness in all of us to know Him more

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38. On May 31, 2008 @ 9:29 pm Denny said:

    • Great Book Finish tonight and I can say the princples in the book are timeless. Just do it! Be ye doer of the word and not hearers only. that sums it up. I was at that point in Ty’s life two years ago the story really hit home with me.

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39. On June 4, 2008 @ 9:02 am Ron Whitworth said:

    • Hi,

      I’m interested in booking Greg for a ski conference.

      Thank You,

      Ron Whitworth
      828.285.0008

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40. On June 12, 2008 @ 5:32 pm Celebrity said:

    • excellent i hope to read that soon.

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41. On June 18, 2008 @ 6:11 pm rob crosby said:

    • I picked up your book one day(God’s whisper)I am new to leading a youth group, and really to church and Christ I am new. I am looking for help to learn to help more kids and inturn help myself. This book was a true eye opener, I really enjoyed the read and felt myself yearning to read more. Thank you.

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42. On June 29, 2008 @ 8:23 am keijo said:

    • Cast all your burden heart and pain on Jesus and follow his steps with joy and love and win more of wisdom and understanding and power that go an winning the sinners heart to him,pray for your the peoples salvation,thanks and bless and hope,keijo sweden

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43. On September 19, 2008 @ 5:34 am keijo said:

    • And every yoke and captive of sin must be free and sets to among the Lords care and the angels nursue and what the devols had destroyed in the name of Jesus be healed and touch of power and love ,and go to the Lords peace and joy,thanks and bless and hope,pray, keijo sweden

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44. On November 20, 2008 @ 4:54 pm Jeremy Zacharias said:

    • Hey Greg, I know Brian was already talking to you a bit about my story, but I wanted to share it with you here so you can hear it in my words. My bookshelf has one shelf crammed full of books I’ve been meaning to read yet, but I haven’t. When my mentor said I needed to read your book, I sighed cause (read previous sentence again). But he said it would be sent for free and he was going to ask me questions about it so I read it and couldn’t put it down. Yeah, I too have been Ty before and I want to be Tony now. In fact I loved it so much I recommended it to the youth ministry prof. at my alma mater and bought an extra copy to loan out to my youth leaders and fellow youth pastors. I’ll probably get at least one more too, cause I’ve been talking it up and word is getting around my circle. I think it’s the best book I’ve ever read about philosophy and methodology of youth ministry. In fact, I like it so much, I’m working through teaching it to my youth group. A few weeks ago, we went through “Get Real” and I opened by asking them to write down an a piece of paper what one question they would to ask God if they were face to face with him and guaranteed an answer. Then I had them make a paper airplane out of that sheet and shoot it into a garbage can at the front. I asked them if they felt any better about their question now. One of the perceptive grade 12 guys remarked he actually felt demoralized cause now his question was lying in a garbage can. Exactly! That’s what we usually do with our questions. We think they’re wrong or stupid and instead of asking them to someone who can help, we just throw them away instead. Then I took them through Doubting Thomas and Matt 28:17 and pointed out the many times that the disciples asked Jesus questions like “what did that parable mean?” I encouraged them to take their questions and write out any others and put them in a question box we have and each week, we’d start by grabbing a question and discussing it which we’ve been doing since. I meant to write this sooner, but last week, a youth emailed me with a private question she wanted answered. See, last week, we continued on with “Go Wide” and I encouraged each one to share the gospel with one person and gave them some tools to do so including the basics of the gospel. Earlier this week as I sat down to write this, I checked my inbox and found an email from one of my new youth asking what it means to give God control of your life! I love those questions! I spent the better part of my morning writing and rewriting out the gospel message to her and encouraging her to let me know what she decides to do with it, recieve God’s gift or reject it. She agreed to let me know, thanked me for the email, saying its helped already and wondered if she could send additional questions as they come. Of course! I’ve always thought the best attraction to God and his church is not a watered down gospel message, but an alive for God group centered on God and his Word! It’s just one story, but I’m looking forward to working through the rest of the book in the coming weeks. Thank you Greg for writing it and Brian for getting it to me and discussing it. I hope this story encourages you as it has me.

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46. On December 28, 2008 @ 8:25 am Jim said:

    • Greg, this book is transforming my own walk with God and I have been shown how I can apply each principle to my life and then teach it to my family. This book has been a huge blessing.

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47. On February 17, 2009 @ 9:52 pm osobo said:

    • Новый способ давления на кандидата на пост Главы г. Химки

      Новый способ “наказать” тех, кто посмел участвовать в выборной кампании не на стороне действующей власти изобрели правоохранительные органы г.о. Химки.
      Руководствуясь не нормой закона, а чьей-то “волей” сотрудники милиции решили “проверить” все фирмы, внесшие денежные средства в избирательный фонд неудобных кандидатов.
      Начались “проверки” с телефонных звонков – где директор, сколько человек работает на фирме. После чего последовали “письма счастья” с просьбой предоставить всю бухгалтерскую документацию, учредительные документы фирмы, и даже, план экспликации БТИ.
      Такие запросы химкинским фирмам рассылает 1 отдел Оперативно-розыскной части № 9 Управления по налоговым преступлениям ГУВД Московской области за подписью начальника подполковника милиции Д.В. Языкова.
      И всё это в то время, когда Президент дал прямое указание правоохранительным органам о прекращении всех незаконных проверок малого и среднего бизнеса. С это целью внесены изменения в Федеральный закон “О милиции” – из статьи 11 этого закона исключены пункты 25 и 35, на основании которых ранее правоохранительные органы имели право проверять финансово-хозяйственную деятельность предприятий.
      Видно, об изменениях действующего законодательства местные правоохранительные органы не уведомлены. И не смотрят телепередачи с выступлениями Президента.
      Может быть, эта публикация подвигнет их к исполнению указаний Президента, а также к изучению и соблюдению действующего законодательства

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48. On April 21, 2009 @ 5:11 pm Sesseerodarat said:

    • Hello forum members

      I just became a member of this forum

      Great work forum crew!

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      Has anyone tried beating diabetes this way?

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49. On August 5, 2009 @ 2:44 am fbcrepublic said:

    • I’m a little behind the times here…
      It is 4:30 a.m. and I just finished reading Ministry Mutiny for the first time. It was a very refreshing read and I’m so excited that the Lord guided me to this book (it was the last copy at the bookstore). The timeless principles that are listed in this book are what I’ve been seeking for my youth ministry. Once again, Greg, you have reminded me “afresh” of those timeless principles that I always knew were there, but haven’t used. I currently have an extremely small group of a core of 6 teens. I am going to view and re-view these principles, of course with God’s Word being at the fore-front of the principles, and send these 6 wide and help them grow deep. I guess in my previous ministry, I was doing some of these things and the group of 5 that we had weekly tripled and even quadrupled over a period of just a few weeks. I just didn’t realize it at the time. It’s time for me to get back to the basics and listen and get real…the rest will follow…

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      August 5th, 2009 at 6:54 am

      Amen! Thanks for the encouragement. If you get a chance check out the Deep and Wide paper on http://www.dare2share.org. Go to “more options” and look for it. It could help you as you do your Ministry mutiny. Keep it up!

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50. On August 13, 2009 @ 9:54 am canadian guy said:

    • Greg,

      Thank you doesnt begin to sum up the feelings I have for the gift found in this work. This book touched pains I had buried from my own youth days where ministers go for what’s popular instead of what is godly. Your list of 30 questions is inspiring and helpful as a challenge to really identify who a Christian is. God has worked an amazing wonder in this and my prayers will be with anyone who has read this book to apply the lessons and share the wisdom found within. Mutiny has the potential to forever change the face of youth ministry and I for one sincerely hope it succeeds.

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      August 13th, 2009 at 10:57 am

      Thank you so much for your encouragement. It’s kinda just getting back to the basics and doing the “grunt work” of making disciples. It’s too easy to mistake cool, new programs for actually making disciples who make discples. So thanks for the thumbs up brother!

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51. On November 15, 2009 @ 3:13 pm Needgehit said:

    • Howdy,
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52. On January 4, 2010 @ 9:56 am Dustin said:

    • Greg~

      I’m on of the fresher faces on the YM scene being in it now first time ever for 9 months. I’m also finishing up my 10 week mentorship through Life in Student Ministry and one of our required reads was “Ministry Mutiny” (thanks for the free book by the way). And before I sat down to read it I thought, what good is a fable going to do in my ministry? Really how is some fiction book going to be directing me in new and exciting ways. Good thing I read said book, it was a flood of information, I went in thinking I’ll read one chapter the first day I started the book. Next thing I know I’m on chapter two then three and flying though the pages. It was “afresh” I loved the ideas, I loved the idea of a mutiny (it also works so well with my Gamer Tag(s) and user names “Captain Klepto”). It sums up life in ministry and shows the promise of victory, I’ve already recommended it to other youth ministers and my youth ministry professor. I’ve been developing a youth ministry philosophy in the last couple of months to apply to what we do here and this book just compliments what I want to do all the better. I hope I’m able to pull off even half the vision of the mutiny. Bottom line all I can say Greg is thanks. Thanks for listening to God’s whisper and sharing this incredible book with us.

      Agape,

      D

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      greg stier Reply:
      January 7th, 2010 at 8:04 am

      Dustin,

      Thanks for your encouraging words. Wish I could take credit for my “original” ideas but, as one of our ministry champions said, “you’ve been plagairizing from the New Testament again!”

      These are old principles but are timeless in their application. I pray God’s wisdom on you as you seek to apply them in this 21st Century setting.

      greg

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