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72 Comments for 'Ministry Mutiny…an Introduction'

1. On September 22, 2006 @ 6:25 pm Becky said:

   • Youth leaders I really appreciate your hard work. ~Becky~ 

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2. On September 23, 2006 @ 7:17 pm Shell said:

   • I CANNOT WAIT TO READ THAT BOOK!!  It will be available in MN, right? I think at some point every youth leader feels like Ty. Life is not designed to be perfect, neither are our youth ministries. Maybe that’s because we’re working with youth?? (lol) I’m relatively new at this ’youth leader’ role, and I hope I never feel like I have control of it. My teens teach me a lot. I hope to never stop growing closer to them and to God. It’s very encouraging to have people like you, Greg, who have been there & can give us rookies more insight.  Thank you for all you do.  See you in a few weeks!!

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3. On September 23, 2006 @ 7:31 pm BigDaddy said:

   • Umm..wow….. Have you ever known somebody like Ty who is discouraged, depressed and sickened at their youth ministry situation? Yes, me (is that pathetic?) Have you ever felt like quitting youth ministry? Why or why not? Yes, lack of respect and being taken seriously by the adults ("he’s that guy that works with the kids") Like its just something we do to pass time. The devistation to my family(seeing the way the "church" treats myself and them) Students who can site all the verses but live none of them out. Not sleeping the night before an elders meeting. What are the major factors in youth leaders feeling discouraged in the average church?Lack of: help,respect,support,prayer,mentoring, urgency….. What words of encouragement would you have for youth leaders? Removing just one "destined for hell" tattoo from the forehead of a student with the message of Christ makes it all worth it. Getting to be Tony 20 years from now. BTW….clicking now to order Minisrty Mutiny! See you in Texas Greg.

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4. On September 25, 2006 @ 11:58 am Tim said:

   • What are the major factors in youth leaders feeling discouraged in the average church? Seems to me that most feel like they’re on their own, under-valued, under-paid, under-loved. Most, if not all, feedback they ever receive is negative. Youth pastors need support, prayer, and encouragement from every source available.

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5. On September 25, 2006 @ 1:36 pm knotter said:

   • 1.  Yes…I’ve been there. 2. Yes.  Too much "babysitting" and not enough ministry.  Little respect from others in the church.  No support. 3.  The support, or lack thereof.  I think Tim summed it up vey well.  Sometimes it feels like you’re always waiting for something to hit the fan. 4. One day the students we work with will be adults.  We have an opportunity to instill within them (with God’s help) the characteristics and attitudes that will be supportive of youth leaders in the future.  You can (and will) make a difference!

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6. On September 26, 2006 @ 7:01 pm Carrie said:

   • What words of encouragement for youth leaders? Are you tired? Good, you’re doing your job. Are you sick of being looked at like you’re crazy because you care about teens (even by some of the parents)?  Great.  Realize you have a special gift.  Do you feel overwhelmed by the unrealistic expectations council members, pastors, parents, and even the teens have of you? Even better. It will help you rely on and turn to the power of God.  Realize it’s not about you, it’s all for Him and them and remind yourself of that daily.  Hourly?  Minutely?    Have you ever felt like quitting youth ministry?  Of course!   It’s very taxing on my time and energy which makes it difficult for the whole family.  Sometimes I get sucked into the devil’s lies that I’m too old for the job, don’t have enough years of training, aren’t going to be able to balance family and ministry, there isn’t any "future" in this field, etc.  The devil assaults us as youth leaders with this question of quitting constantly, doesn’t he?  Some other job would be easier, pay more, be less hassle, gain us more appreciation, etc. right? Maybe so, but as far as I’ve seen  there is no greater high then leading a teen to Christ and seeing them come alive in Him.  What are major factors in youth leaders feeling discouraged?  Knowing you have full valuable treasure chests just waiting to be opened, and nobody is willing to help pay for, find  or insert the keys that will open them.  Most  would deny there’s even treasure there.  It’s maddening to know the riches are there, you can’t possibly reach them all yourself, and not nearly enough people will get up off the pews, climb aboard the pirate ship, and start digging at the X (youth room).

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7. On September 27, 2006 @ 8:18 pm Christian Abernatha said:

   • greg, just wanted to let you know how much i praise the Lord for you and D2S.  you ask me to e-mail a testamony to you when you were in St. Louis last week, and i would love to do that just let me know where to send it.  see you in Chicago on march 30-31. praying for you, Christian Abernatha

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8. On September 30, 2006 @ 5:25 pm Ashley Buckner said:

   • Go youth leaders! I don’t know where I’d be without you! And Greg, just wanted to say that in my Brio mag I saw your D2S book  and I’m gonna try and get up some money to buy it. And guess what? I wore my Loser shirt to the football game last night and I did get alot of approval from alot of different kids. But one of the girl’s who plays soccer with me shook her head like she was dissapointed and I wasn’t able to ask her than, but I plan to ask her later about why she didn’t like what the back of the shirt had to say. So keep your fingers crossed, pray, and we’ll see where God goes with this. Signing off, Ashley

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10. On October 4, 2006 @ 2:29 pm Heath said:

    • Greg, I just finished reading your book, "Ministry Mutiny".  I bought it at the Nashville conference this past weekend.  My heart resonated with everything you said.  I am currently in my first pastorate, a bi-vocational position that includes everything from cleaning the floors, to preaching and leading the youth group.  It has been, basically, a church re-plant.  I have experienced the privelege/burden/excitement/depression of calling into question the things going on in the church and it has been real work; not to mention that I am married and have three daughters.  Unfortunately, I believe the church was going a mile wide and an inch deep when it was at its peek, particularly in the youth ministry.  It cost the church dearly, as they were down to about 20 people when I was led to take the pastorate.  We have worked to establish a new, firm foundation in our beliefs and our core values.  We went through the "40 Days of Purpose" about three months into the re-start, which helped to motivate some, but we still have a long way to go.  Your book has given credence to the direction I have felt God leading and it has helped me to see some things that I need to be doing differently.  I plan to "hi-jack" your youth ministry principles and use them with our church, I hope you don’t mind.   Bless you and Dare2Share.  <><Heath><>

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11. On October 11, 2006 @ 10:30 am Chris said:

    • Greg,  Excellent book!  I loved it.  In fact I purchased it Monday afternoon and just finished it!  I can’t wait to begin to implement some of these ideas in my youth group.  Thank you.  Chris

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12. On October 18, 2006 @ 12:55 pm Rob said:

    • Greg, Great book. Loved the 30 questions in the Grow Deep chapter! A ministry mutiny principle that you didn’t state in the book, but showed up throughout the book was "finding a mentor from outside your church".  Great book man! Rob

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13. On October 25, 2006 @ 4:26 pm 5 loaves, 2 fish….did someone say Fish? said:

    • […] I have been slowly making my way through a new book I received in the mail. It is a new book by Greg Stier called “Ministry Mutiny.” It’s not a how-to manual, or even some kind of revolt against the elders of your church. In fact, as Greg would say, it really isn’t all that cutting-edge nor does it introduce some new “fail proof” method for a successful youth group. It does however capture the essence of youth ministry. I think the fact that it is a “fable” is the reason Greg can walk us through some very engaging issues that we struggle with. Instead of simply rattling off all the things we could complain about, he brings them to life and then deals with them. The solutions are primarily Biblical principals we have just forgotten all about. I say I have been slowly making my way through it. That’s because each concept deserves my honest contemplation as well as time to work on my heart. I have many flaws. As with “Ty”, I have my own “Tony” who has helped me walk through my struggles and pains. I thank God for my “Tony”. He is always there to encourage me, or let me vent, and to always remind me that its worth it. And he never spares any mercy to get in the ‘ol “welcome to youth ministry brother.” If you are a student reading this, I ask you a simple favor; be patient with me. I will give you my heart. I will make mistakes. (dramatic pause) There is nothing more I can promise than that. Look to God for promises. If you are a youth leader, read the book, check your heart, and go with God. Listen for His whisper. […]

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14. On October 26, 2006 @ 6:43 pm Mark said:

    • Greg,  I just received Ministry Mutiny at YS NYWC in Austin.  By the way, thanks so much for the free copy.  The book is fantastic.  I concure with every biblical principle you have brought to light.  It is refreshing.   I passed my copy on to my senior pastor and he likes it too.  It fits in with our church philosophy.  Today, I met with a networkof YPs and recommended it to them. Blessings,  Mark The Bald fella who was also at PF Changs (good food, huh!)

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15. On December 5, 2006 @ 5:26 pm kevin said:

    • The foward of this book should have been written by Ken Blanchard. His books are written in a very similar fashion (Gung Ho!) for example. So that being said I gues he did help write the concept of this book. I pray someday soon will come a day when another book doesn’t need to be written about how to live our life or another 1-100 step priciple that we need to  learn. WHEN WILL WE AS BELEIVERS LIVE THE LIFE THAT THESE TYPE OF BOOKS ASK US TO BE?!? Why is it that we can read these books and say: "Hey this is a copy of so and so’s book." As I can obviously tell with this book? I know many of us Chritains try and follow these principles and I love Greg and Dare 2 Share (they have helped me and my walk in faith) I pray someday soon will come a day when "Christian" book store are not filled with people buying books that have been copied by other authors with thousand of titles for sale and be bought and sold. Only for that book to just sit on a dusty old shelf with other books. Maybe instead of that money going to yet another book to be bought and sold it can go to that cold man on the corner or that poor person in a far away land that is crying out to Jesus Christ right now saying "Lord, please help me!" kevinr88@msn.com

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18. On December 12, 2006 @ 11:18 am Richard Peck said:

    • Thanks for the great book!  I’m always impressed by what you guys put out there.  God sure knows what He’s doing up there as He always makes the right "divine appointments".  I am frustrated, discouraged, sometimes feeling defeated, even to the point that I have questioned why about everything in my ministry to the youth of our church.  But now, I am feeling hopeful, encouraged, excited about the possbilities, and ready to get down to business.  No one should ever say that they have learned enough or know it all, because I’m learning all I can.  I just want to see students lives transformed by the gospel of Jesus Christ because it is the power of God unto salvation for all who believe.  It’s gonna be a long, hard, tiring process to execute Ministry Mutiny but these principles speak volumes to me now at this time in what God has called me and gifted (this book refreshed my memory about that!) me to do.  Thank you D2S and thank you, Greg!

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19. On January 5, 2007 @ 1:52 am Bradley McCarty said:

    • First of all, I am not a reader, which I know is bad for a youth pastor. So, that’s saying something that I just finished reading Ministry Mutiny in 3 hours and 40 minutes straight! I couldn’t put it down and I finised it at 2:40 A.M.!!! My cousin-in-laws husband who is also a youth pastor gave it to me for Christmas. This was totally unexpected and I didn’t have anything for him. But, now I know, it was TOTALLY God! I needed this book! I would typicaly think a book was the worst gift in the world and put it on my shelf in my office to make myself looked learned. But, I thank God I started reading it (while going to the bathroom) and couldn’t put it down. I have been struggling with leaving my current church or maybe even youth ministry entirely. I haven’t even had time to process it, and part of me is still wanting to rebel against the simplisity of it. I may have some questions later. But, I’m praying this can give me a new start after 3 years into Youth ministry too.

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20. On January 5, 2007 @ 9:28 am PS343 said:

    • Here is my first question (from Bradley McCarty if it’s changed now ’cause I registered). You never say you are Ty or Tony or if they are real people and this is based on real events. So, I’m wandering if these principles are actual practiced and tested or just theory, so to speak? Not that they have to be to be good principles. After all, they are Bible based. But, I’m more wandering how I get my youth group of 24 kids to that point and what to expect along the way.

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21. On January 9, 2007 @ 11:01 pm DLynn said:

    • Sounds interesting. I have to admit that my husband and I have had conversations regarding today’s "youth groups" and the danger that lurks therein. I see gimmicks, gadgets, games galore. I see flashing lights and music excitement and more. I see youth with a vision and youth confused. I hear a Gospel preached with flesh and flare, but I regret to say I see a crucified life nowhere. (I think I hear a song in those words)copyrighted 1-9-07 DRH Harsh? You bet! I would say this to the youth leaders of today, "what you do to bring them in , you will have to do to keep them." The Gospel of Jesus Christ does not need to be sold. It doesn’t need the clever ideas of man to draw in the lost, save them and disciple them. The Gospel has , does and will ALWAYS be able to stand on it’s own. It needs no fancy package. I do not question the motives of our brothers and sisters who have a heart for the youth of today. I am a mentor to many young women myself. I do , and will challenge however, the technique’s used to tickle the ear and delight the eye. It is compromise, in my opinion. We have two teen girls of our own. They are sold out the whole route, beautiful, and Godly young women. They have been members in two different churches through out their lives, one in Seattle and one here in South Carolina where we now live. We have visited many churches hoping to find one JUST one that will give these kids what they need and not some glittery, flashy prostituted Gospel that is based on having an "experience" rather than a "transformation." OK, I vented a bit there.   I was raised, and have raised my children with the knowledge that as soon as we try and bottle  God and sell Him as a feeling, experience or a hyped up cool thing, we’ve missed it! He is Holy and we are called to be holy. We are NOT to look like ,act like sound like or mirror the world with it’s newest, coolest hippest —- fill in the blank. We are called to be a peculiar people. Right? We are not to fit in. We are to be odd, weird and unafraid. Ambassadors in chains, fishers of men, faithful believers able to teach others also. Are there disciples coming out of the packed out youth groups of today? They are few and far between. Now for a word of encouragement. To our brave, precious and unsung youth leaders… "with God little is much." Remember all it takes is one seed, but the ground it’s planted on will determine the harvest. Plant excitement and you will reap excitement. Plant righteousness and you will reap souls. Now go therefore and preach. In His Armor, D~ 

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22. On February 6, 2007 @ 1:50 pm Matt said:

    • I am a Youth Pastor who has been at it for over 10 years. I have alot to learn, not alot to say. I have had those days where i have the resignation letter written and the application to another job filled out sitting on my desk. I was so afraid of not doing what God called me to do though. It was not a fear of Him striking me down, or of Him hurting me somehow, but a fear of not being in His will and a fear of not feeling the joy that He gives when we do what He has called us to do. Sure, there have been numerous times i have thought about giving up on my ministry and my calling, then one of those kids who have grown up in your ministry calls and tells you they are serving God in some ministry somewhere else. (It has happened more than once Praise God!!) So many times our discouragement somes from our focus. We began to look at self rather than the cross. Sure, we all have those times we feel like the "Church Political System" is our enemy, or our youth are just not where they need to be spiritualy.  But it does not excuse us from our calling!  Has God called you?

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23. On February 16, 2007 @ 11:07 am Susana said:

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24. On March 27, 2007 @ 11:05 am siglerjo said:

    •  Greg, You rock! Just when I think that you have went above and beyond and can’t get any better, you prove me wrong. I have been to two Dare2Share events, I have read two of your books and I love everything. I am only a volunteer in youth ministry, but I love what it is all about. Thank you for all your help. Keep up the great work, I know that the Holy Spirit lives and shines bright around you.

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25. On April 17, 2007 @ 6:03 am Elisabeth said:

    • Good job, here and there!!! Keep it up, I like your guestbook!!! Please add your comments at my

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26. On May 8, 2007 @ 11:13 am ChadL777 said:

    • Greg, I just recently read "Ministry Mutiny" and it really gave me a fresh perspective on ministry.  As a matter of fact, I met with our youth leadership team and we have adopted a new purpose statement that reads:  Go Wide and Grow Deep.  Hope that is not plagurism but the principles are undeniably God’s Word.  They are all excited and want to read "Ministry Munity".  Thank you Greg for allowing God to speak through your book.  It has and will continue to make a difference in Student ministry and the Kingdom of God.

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28. On May 9, 2007 @ 2:03 pm Andrew Suite said:

    • Awesome book, Greg! As a Youth Director approaching the 1 1/2 years in ministry mark, this couldn’t have come at a better time! I’ve started to become what I swore I never would become…a guy who works hard, putting my own effort in and merely sprinkling a little God on top of all of my stuff as almost an after thought rather than focsuing on Him and what He’s doing and catching that wave of blessing. I’m ready for His Ministry Mutiny! Since it’s not really MY ministry anyway. I know Tony says toward the end of the book that it’s not easy to commit Ministry Mutiny and it will take some hard work and that every situation is different, but can you or anyone for that matter suggest some "baby steps," Dave Ramsey’s FPU or "What About Bob?" style. In other words, Dave talks about $1,000 in savings first, then begin aggressively paying off your debts…etc. What would some "Ministry Mutiny" baby steps look like? Obviously the first one might be to get to the cave and get on your face before God. In Him, Andrew, Youth Director - Logansport IN

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31. On June 19, 2007 @ 7:47 am Evangelist Ogbera Joshua said:

    • My name are Evangelist Ogbera Joshua from Lagos Nigeria, I want to know how I can plant or install my own ministry.  I will be very happy to hear from you.  Thanks  Yours in Christ  Evang. Ogbera Joshua, Lagos Nigeria

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32. On June 29, 2007 @ 7:01 pm Eric Coley said:

    • Greg, The Lord led your website to me. I have been in youth ministry for 15 years, and in God’s strength I have seen a lot of Students come to know Christ. I give God the glory for everything that he has done in my ministry. God knew I needed to find a book and or a resource such as "Ministry Mutiny". I recently was terminated from my church, because they said I wasn’t connecting with the students anymore, and that I was building to many relationships outside of the church and not spending enough time dealing with the church kids and the youth council. I will admit I was having better ministry success building relationships with the local High School Football Coach, and finding out where he stood spiritually than I was with my own kids. The reason why I was having success outside the church instead of inside the church was due to the simple fact that the people outside the church are real, and I do not find myself trying to fight through different mask the students and people put on in the church. I ask that you pray for me. I am going to buy your book. I am in need of a fresh word. I am torn to go into full-time pastorate or stay with youth ministry. I am trying to support my family as well as trying to seek out guidance from the Lord. I do not have a ministry at this time. I know God is there, but I still feel alone at times and I have alot of questions going through my mind. Once again, please pray that God will give peace that passes all understanding. In Christ, Eric Coley.

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33. On June 29, 2007 @ 10:01 pm Greg said:

    • I will pray for you Eric. May the Lord guide you in his path in his time.

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37. On August 16, 2007 @ 9:49 am Youth Wife said:

    • I bought this book for my husband, who has been in the youth ministry (jr/sr high) for almost 4 years. However, I couldn’t put it down. That book was written as if you were peering into our daily lives. My husband is an exact "Ty." We are currently determining whether to stay or go from our current church due to the lack of parent support and complaints we seem to be getting because my husband’s lessons are too "boring." They are strictly bible based studies and our kids are so spiritually immature they cannot connect to the lesson unless a game or something fun is involved. I am praying that he can find his "Tony." Our church is very connected in our community and it is hard for him to find someone he can confide in. I think God led me to this book for a divine reason. Maybe it is God’s whisper to stay put and keep trying. It’s breaking our hearts to think of leaving our kids, but how long do you continue to try? Thank you so much for an insightful book that will change lives everywhere. It would be amazing to think of the difference a "mutiny" would make in the world!

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38. On August 17, 2007 @ 2:28 pm Greg said:

    • I’ll pray that your husband finds his "Tony"!

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39. On August 24, 2007 @ 2:12 pm KATHY BENJAMIN said:

    • I just finished the book . I could not read it fast enough . As a parent of a blooming 12 year old a can not get enough information. I passed the book on to our youth minister .  Although I think that we have an peogresive program for all our youth, I do not think that there is never a point that we have all the informatiion that we will ever need . Thanks for inspire our youth and thier leaders . They are our future Church .

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54. On September 6, 2007 @ 7:51 pm emanna said:

    • I want you to know that I finished your book in about 3 days, and had to keep myself from reading it all the way through.  I am a mentor to our local homeschool group, and we are starting a small group just for our teens (approx. 35 teens from 7th - 12th grade).  Your book has totally turned my world upside down!  How refreshing to hear such truth BEFORE we start into teen ministry.  God placed this book in my hand at just the right time.  I’m planning on laying out the principles found in Ministry Mutiny to our parents on Friday during our first meeting. A common misconception amongst homeschoolers is, "If I keep them home and homeschool them, shelter them from the world, and take them to church, and choose their friends, etc. etc. then they’ll follow Christ for the rest of their lives."  It takes more purposeful planning than even that.  We’ve all heard the horror stories.  Many homeschool students struggle once they’re out of the nest and heading to college.  Perhaps not academically (we’ve prepared them well in this area), but definately spiritually.  As homeschool parents we tend to focus most of our energy on their education, and even their socialization, but not as much on their spiritual growth.  We assume that since we’re raising them in Christian homes that they’ll "catch" our faith.  But if the parents themselves are not modeling a life passionate for Christ, then the chances of that are slim.  They need adults who can be real with them, and love them no matter what may come their way.  They need to have truth injected into every area of their lives.  What an awesome privelege it is to be a part of this ministry! Thank you for this amazing book.  Truly I felt like it was from God’s heart to your ears.  Thanks for being such a great listener to His "whisperings".

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55. On September 7, 2007 @ 12:52 pm Greg said:

    • Emanna,

      Thank you SO much for your encouragement. In the next two months we should have some downloadables on www.dare2share.org to help you communicate the Deep and Wide ministry philosophy more effectively. Keep pushing those homeschoolers deep and wide! Greg

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56. On September 28, 2007 @ 1:49 pm allthenations said:

    • What a great book. It really challenged me in some areas… and some areas we were already trying to implement what you had written so it was good to hear it from another angle. Thanks for your honesty and gut-level approach. The book was hard to put down.

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